fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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nada391 wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:08 pm like in default group "gpu only + zero cpu" and cpu group "desired available cpu cores, minimum 3 cores"?
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Do we still have enough WUs available for 3-4 thread CPUs ?
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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toTOW wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:11 pm Do we still have enough WUs available for 3-4 thread CPUs ?
We rarely made exclusions for 3-4 threads cpus. So, yes
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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muziqaz wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:33 pm
nada391 wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:08 pm like in default group "gpu only + zero cpu" and cpu group "desired available cpu cores, minimum 3 cores"?
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the problem seems not entirely solved this way, now after completing the task default group with GPU only is stalling while CPU is still running WU (and maybe will stall upon completion?)

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18:41:05:I1:WU22:Requesting WU assignment for user d69hw0irhkuy team 234980
18:41:05:I1:OUT243:> POST https://assign3.foldingathome.org/api/assign HTTP/1.1
18:41:06:I1:OUT243:< HTTP/1.1 503 HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE
18:41:06:E :OUT243:HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE: {"error":"No appropriate assignment"}
18:41:06:I1:WU22:Retry #217 in 8 mins 32 secs
18:43:38:I1:WU29:Completed 1050000 out of 5000000 steps (21%)
18:46:50:I1:WU29:Completed 1100000 out of 5000000 steps (22%)
18:49:38:I1:WU22:Requesting WU assignment for user d69hw0irhkuy team 234980
18:49:38:I1:OUT244:> POST https://assign4.foldingathome.org/api/assign HTTP/1.1
18:49:39:I1:OUT244:< HTTP/1.1 503 HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE
18:49:39:E :OUT244:HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE: {"error":"No appropriate assignment"}
18:49:39:I1:WU22:Retry #218 in 8 mins 32 secs
18:50:01:I1:WU29:Completed 1150000 out of 5000000 steps (23%) 
strange thing is that ion same pc with same hardware but with ubuntu server the pc would get job uninterruptedly so maybe this is a windows thing only? could also be the windows server software somehow blocking the WU after completion.
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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There might not be work available then
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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muziqaz wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:11 pm There might not be work available then
thanks, because there is no work available, or just not for such the under-dimensioned GPU?

or is FAH over-provisioning?
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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FYI, I am running several machines for CPU-only work, and they are regularly receiving and then returning completed WUs with only 3 CPU threads provisioned. So it doesn’t appear to be a problem of availability.
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

Post by arisu »

"Retry 217" tells me that the client has been running for quite some time. Try restarting the service. My guess is it will work. I seem to recall an issue where changes to resources while stuck in "assign wait" don't always take effect until a restart of the client.
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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arisu wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:13 am "Retry 217" tells me that the client has been running for quite some time. Try restarting the service.
Hello , it is still happening;

like int
14:59:27:I1:WU246:Requesting WU assignment for user d69hw0irhkuy team 234980
14:59:28:I1:WU246:Retry #148 in 8 mins 32 secs
15:08:00:I1:WU246:Requesting WU assignment for user d69hw0irhkuy team 234980
15:08:00:I1:WU246:Retry #149 in 8 mins 32 secs
how do you that "restarting the service" on Windows? do you mean "killing" the process completely in task manager and then restart it by clicking on fah icon on windows desktop?

EDIT: did just that, now it would "restart" both CPU and GPU tasks, however, i am getting 100% CPU workload although i have chosen only 3 out of 4 cores available?

https://ibb.co/6Rc4vg0R
https://ibb.co/yBpg2tnY

it seems however, it is not viable solution to restart every time after GPU completed one WU only. This has to be Windows somehow issue, since it seem Ubuntu not affected, even if GPU and CPU are not being assigned to different resource groups. also on a PC running Windows 7 with the same GPU transplanted, the folding would get continuous jobs (at least it did last time i tried).
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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It is getting 100% workload because GPU folding on Nvidia runs a single core at 100% to "feed" the GPU. So only three cores are folding the CPU task and one of the three cores is feeding the GPU, but it adds up to all four cores running at 100%.
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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Same here, it has been happening for over a week now.

Out of 12 GPUs, 7 have been retrying to download WUs for days with no luck.

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23:54:24:I1:OUT4:> POST https://assign1.foldingathome.org/api/assign HTTP/1.1
23:54:24:E :Exception: Failed to prevent sleep: Transport endpoint is not connected
23:54:25:I1:OUT4:< HTTP/1.1 503 HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE
23:54:25:E :OUT4:HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE: {"error":"No appropriate assignment"}
23:54:25:I1:WU103:Retry #1 in 2 secs
23:54:27:I1:WU103:Requesting WU assignment for user abpb5zyicvewbj3blocbaele3bfdgdvdmf74fshf6r7vfj2qgbrpyo5elafey team 1066107
23:54:27:I1:OUT5:> POST https://assign2.foldingathome.org/api/assign HTTP/1.1
23:54:29:I1:OUT5:< HTTP/1.1 503 HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE
23:54:29:E :OUT5:HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE: {"error":"No appropriate assignment"}
23:54:29:I1:WU103:Retry #2 in 4 secs
23:54:33:I1:WU103:Requesting WU assignment for user abpb5zyicvewbj3blocbaele3bfdgdvdmf74fshf6r7vfj2qgbrpyo5elafey team 1066107
23:54:33:I1:OUT6:> POST https://assign3.foldingathome.org/api/assign HTTP/1.1
23:54:34:I1:OUT6:< HTTP/1.1 503 HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE
23:54:34:E :OUT6:HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE: {"error":"No appropriate assignment"}
23:54:34:I1:WU103:Retry #3 in 8 secs
23:54:42:I1:WU103:Requesting WU assignment for user abpb5zyicvewbj3blocbaele3bfdgdvdmf74fshf6r7vfj2qgbrpyo5elafey team 1066107
23:54:43:I1:OUT7:> POST https://assign4.foldingathome.org/api/assign HTTP/1.1
23:54:44:I1:OUT7:< HTTP/1.1 503 HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE
23:54:44:E :OUT7:HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE: {"error":"No appropriate assignment"}
23:54:44:I1:WU103:Retry #4 in 16 secs
23:55:00:I1:WU103:Requesting WU assignment for user abpb5zyicvewbj3blocbaele3bfdgdvdmf74fshf6r7vfj2qgbrpyo5elafey team 1066107
23:55:00:I1:OUT8:> POST https://assign5.foldingathome.org/api/assign HTTP/1.1
23:55:01:I1:OUT8:< HTTP/1.1 503 HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE
23:55:01:E :OUT8:HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE: {"error":"No appropriate assignment"}
I do not know if it is related or not, but on https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats I can see that Assignment servers 1 and 2 are showing errors. Could it be related?
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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And what GPUs are those 7? There is a temporary shortage of work for high-end GPUs.
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

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4080, 4080 Super, 5080, 5090.
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

Post by arisu »

Those are all very high-end GPUs. There is a temporary shortage of projects for those GPUs. The internal team is aware of it and it is being worked on.

The error will resolve itself automatically once the shortage is over, so you can just leave them as they are.
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Re: fah-client 8.4.9: HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE ("No appropriate assignment")?

Post by daiko »

Perhaps related to this assignment issue—All five of my Macs running CPU WUs are currently getting the same SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE message after successful uploads. This began about 90 minutes ago. All are set to use between 3 and 8 performance cores. Have the assignment servers run out of appropriate CPU WUs, or is there some problem with them? My network has no other problems that I can see. 🤷‍♂️
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