Not seeing bonus points

[ctblackm1]

I am a F@H newb and I didn't realize that the donor name when requesting a passkey needed to be the same as my folding name. So, I have been folding with a bad key and have thus, not been receiving bonus points.

I have corrected my error today, but I still am not seeing bonus points for my WU's today. Does anyone know what else I might have screwed up?

Thanks,
Folder Name: ctblackm1

[ChristianVirtual]

You need to return 10 successful Work units with your passkey before the bonus kicks in. Plus keep 80% success rate.
In addition not all projects have a QRB ... More details would be good (what projects and setup, CPU or GPU etc)

[ctblackm1]

It looks like I have returned 11 successful WU's since I corrected the passkey. The currently running WU's do not seem to have bonus' in the Points per day measurement. But, I guess it is possible they will still report a bonus?

Current Work Units:
9010 (40, 1, 9)
10471 (0, 53, 14)
9201 (394, 1, 152)

CPU Core i7 5960X @4.0Ghz (running 16 threads F@H)
2x GeForce GTX 980

[Joe_H]

The passkey does not have to be based on the same donor name as folding username, so you actually did not have to change the passkey at all. Two passkeys show up for your donor name. One has over a hundred successful turn ins, the other only shows 10. What gets qualified is a username and passkey pair, it is not linked to the name used in the request to get a passkey.

Besides the 10 WU's that need to be processed before getting the QRB that CV mentioned, changing a passkey or username in the middle of a WU will cause it to not get the bonus. If you have properly entered your passkey into the client, then WU's completed after this should get the bonus. The client does report both the base points and the estimated total points, but it can take a few percent progress before the estimate settles down to a relatively accurate value. All three of the projects you mention as being in progress are eligible for bonus as long as the other criteria for the bonus are met.

[ctblackm1]

Ok. Ha ha. I was looking at the web control estimated points and I thought that was the base points. Those are actually bonus points.

Sorry for the trouble. Thanks for your help.

As a side question that informs me going down this rabbit hole... How is it that some people are getting ~80k points per WU? My machine is no slouch, and I am getting nothing even remotely close to that.

[7im]

One, go back to your first Passkey. It has more WUs completed on it, so you may want to keep that one. Second, some people are getting a lot more than that per WU. Speed equals points. GTX 980? 8 or 12 core cpu?

[ctblackm1]

One, go back to your first Passkey. It has more WUs completed on it, so you may want to keep that one. Second, some people are getting a lot more than that per WU. Speed equals points. GTX 980? 8 or 12 core cpu?

I have only been going for a few days now and I don't have a whole lot of points on either passkey. So, I am not too concerned about that. Since all my points seem to be accumulating on my user regardless of my multiple passkeys, I am not sure I really understand what the point of the passkey is. I have read the passkey FAQ, but since anyone can just request a new passkey and begin folding as if they were my user (as I have essentially done here), I don't see how that does anything.

And, my video cards are GTX 980's and my CPU is 8 cores (16 threads). I have done some further research on this and came across these pages:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvid ... -review/20
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7492/the- ... -review/14

Judging from the fact that my WU's on my CPU are being completed in less than 90 minutes in most cases and the base points on these WU's start out so small to begin with, I am pretty sure that these huge points are coming from GPU's, and more specifically the GTX Titan, which still seems to have a commanding lead over my GTX 980's despite being a couple of years older. Do you know if the WU's that I have listed above make heavy use of double precision floating point (I am guessing that they must)?

None of this really matters for my original question, I am just interested out of pure curiosity.

[Nathan_P]

As 7im says, points are based on the power of your setup, GTX 980 is king for GPU projects as long as its core 17, other cores hold up well on the older 780's. CPU wise its all a question of qty, the BA heavy lifters run server grade machines with upto 4 cpu's and 16 threads per cpu. They are capable of upto 1m PPD. Haven't seen what the effect of Ivy or haswell based 4 way xeons would be yet though.

[7im]

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... I am not sure I really understand what the point of the passkey is. I have read the passkey FAQ, but since anyone can just request a new passkey and begin folding as if they were my user (as I have essentially done here), I don't see how that does anything.

That's exactly the point. Anyone can fold with any user name. But only YOU know your own passkey #. ONLY you can fold with your user name AND your unique passkey #. That combination is unique. And you can search the stats by user name only, by passkey # only, or using both.

It's a way for people who what to use a common user name (like John) to separate their points out from all the other "Johns."

And yes, you can have as many passkeys as you have email addresses and user names. But there is no benefit to doing that.

[bruce]

Suppose an evil person wishes to sabotage your points and they do something bad that causes Stanford to revoke the points your name has accumelated. (This has happened, but only rarely and a long time ago.) Points using one passkey can be separated from points using a different passkey so you can keep your points while the evil person's account is zeroed.

Unlikely, but still a good idea.

[ctblackm1]

As 7im says, points are based on the power of your setup, GTX 980 is king for GPU projects as long as its core 17, other cores hold up well on the older 780's. CPU wise its all a question of qty, the BA heavy lifters run server grade machines with upto 4 cpu's and 16 threads per cpu. They are capable of upto 1m PPD. Haven't seen what the effect of Ivy or haswell based 4 way xeons would be yet though.

z
I was really referring more to points per WU. Just doing some simple math, it doesn't really seem like the points given for WU's on the CPU's can get into the ~80k/WU range with the base points starting so small. Which means that the users I see out there with an ~80k average points per WU must have some graphics power that is more than my GTX 980's. Looking at the links of compute performance that I posted previously, I am guessing that it is people with Titan/Titan X/Titan Z in their setup due to the much better double precision floating point performance.

[ctblackm1]

Thanks bruce and 7im for info. That makes sense.

[davidcoton]

Bonus points heavily reward fast returns -- in a non-linear fashion. So a good GPU is easily capable of over 80K points for a WU. My 780Ti gets over 90K per WU.

[ChristianVirtual]

My GTX 780 on 13000 get around 75k each run, but also need 11h

[Nathan_P]

As 7im says, points are based on the power of your setup, GTX 980 is king for GPU projects as long as its core 17, other cores hold up well on the older 780's. CPU wise its all a question of qty, the BA heavy lifters run server grade machines with upto 4 cpu's and 16 threads per cpu. They are capable of upto 1m PPD. Haven't seen what the effect of Ivy or haswell based 4 way xeons would be yet though.

z
I was really referring more to points per WU. Just doing some simple math, it doesn't really seem like the points given for WU's on the CPU's can get into the ~80k/WU range with the base points starting so small. Which means that the users I see out there with an ~80k average points per WU must have some graphics power that is more than my GTX 980's. Looking at the links of compute performance that I posted previously, I am guessing that it is people with Titan/Titan X/Titan Z in their setup due to the much better double precision floating point performance.

80k Per WU is more than possible with CPU's - not necessarily 1 cpu but it is doable - I get about 275k per WU - now these are the BA units that will be going at the end of January so it won't last for ever. My stats to show what I mean.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... =&u=510459