Project 12103 taking too long

[Peter_Hucker]

I have received a project 12103 WU on two AMD R9 280X cards and an AMD RX560. All three will not meet the timeout. These cards easily make the timeout for everything else. I think this project needs to go to faster cards.

[BobWilliams757]

Giving the most information you can is more productive. Answers to uestions such as the below might be helpful to the people making the assignments.

Are you folding 24/7?

If not, how many hours per day do you fold?

Are your gpus or any other part of your computer running power limited or in any sense that would limit their potential power?

Approximately how much of these work units would be done in the allocated time with no interruptions or power limits?


The more information you can provide, the more useful that information becomes to those that make the decisions on assignments.

[Peter_Hucker]

Yes, running 24/7.

No limits on the GPUs. They run at 80%+ usage depending what CPU they're connected to. I get most of them to 90-95%.

The three with project number 12103 were all going to take about 30% longer than required. All other projects get done in about 50-60% of the required time.

[BobWilliams757]

That should be better information if they have time to take a look. From my understanding the assignments are a bit trickier for AMD GPUs because they use the same device ID for a sometimes broad selection of GPUs. That makes it harder to nail down the specifics of the various species break downs as well as the assignment side of things.

[Peter_Hucker]

By device identifier, do you mean the one which shows up in the settings, where you tick to turn them on? They show as "Tahiti", which applies to a lot of cards, but clicking on some at random, my 280X are the fastest (going by 32bit floating point speed), so they shouldn't be dawdling on any tasks.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-tahiti.g120

[Joe_H]

They go by the PCI ID number, probably the one in this entry for a 280X in the GPUs.txt file:

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0x1002:0x6798:1:4:Tahiti XT [R9 280X/HD 7900/8970 OEM]

The PCI ID is the first two hexadecimal numbers, 0x1002 identifies it as made by AMD, and 0x6798 identifies it further. AMD reuses numbers for this field for a range of products and place the GPU specific identification in a third field that F@h does not access.

As you can see, a 280x is a rebranded HD 7900 card. It is based on GCN 1st gen technology, AMD has not provided good support for OpenCL on that generation of chips in a while. Thy did go through the AMD listings not too long ago to assign species ratings, it is possible they need a bit of fine tuning. Or the project needs to assign to AMD species 5 or greater.

[muziqaz]

I have received a project 12103 WU on two AMD R9 280X cards and an AMD RX560. All three will not meet the timeout. These cards easily make the timeout for everything else. I think this project needs to go to faster cards.

Windows?
What are the Time Per Frame, especially on rx 560.

The constraints were set up after testing on RX550 (TPF4m23s), which finished 12103 in ~7h. Your rx560 should fly through them in half the time. And 280x would be even faster. And Run, Clone, Gen on one of the WUs would be great too.
Thanks

[muziqaz]

PCI ID is not the culprit on these ones.
280x is sharing PCI ID with same performance hd7900 and a tad slower hd8970. So 280x is at the top of the food chain in that PCI ID.
RX 560 is at the top of the food chain in its PCI ID, sharing it with my slower RX 550 and same perf 560x. They are assigned where they are supposed to be assigned, or in the lower bracket than they should be

[muziqaz]

OK, never mind, project has been restricted against AMD.

Thanks for letting us know

[Peter_Hucker]

When you say restricted, do you mean set to higher AMDs or Nvidia only?

[muziqaz]

AMD is out of these.

[Peter_Hucker]

Well that wasn't very nice!