New web site

[folding_hoomer]

The link on page: http://folding.stanford.edu/home/download-utilities for downloading FAHBench redirects to:
http://www.fahbench.com/ - but this page is not available.
It shows:

I'm sorry, the page or resource you are searching for is currently unavailable.

The source of FAHBench is GitHub now: https://github.com/SimTk/fahbench

[bruce]

The source of FAHBench is GitHub now: https://github.com/SimTk/fahbench

Download from https://fahbench.github.io/

[brockkl]

Hi. I was wondering when all the links would be fixed for the new website? In the Chrome client, if I try to view team stats, or just about anything else, I get page not found, from the Stanford web server.
Do I need to remove the client and reinstall it or something like that?

thanks
Keith

[rwh202]

Hi. I was wondering when all the links would be fixed for the new website? In the Chrome client, if I try to view team stats, or just about anything else, I get page not found, from the Stanford web server.
Do I need to remove the client and reinstall it or something like that?

thanks
Keith

The website was completely messed up yesterday - I was trying to do an install on a new machine and had to resort to using an installer from another machine. However, just checked this morning and it seems to be working again.

[Knish]

I recently noticed the 2020 refresh on the homepage. Cool progress bar regarding the Moonshot, but I swear yesterday it was over 23% and today it's at 19%, or am I mistaken?

[Neil-B]

nope ... not mistaken ... I believe they must still be adding more work to the project

[JohnChodera]

That was my fault! This was our first sprint, and a backlog on the cluster meant that some RUNs were prepped too late for the initial launch and had to be added later!

late addition #1: https://twitter.com/jchodera/status/1288095621920874502
late addition #2: https://twitter.com/jchodera/status/1288688807944925184

We're hoping we can get enough usable data to the chemists by Monday, but may let this first back go through the end of next week before starting Weekly Sprint #2. and then go weekly from there.

We can still use more help to speed up processing, though!

Thanks all of you who are helping out with your GPUs!

~ John Chodera // MSKCC

[ThWuensche]

If you want it to be more appealing to experts, then finding a way to make it open source (without risking false results, of course) would be a good point. Also if the code could be reviewed and binary builds could be compared with user builds from source, this would increase trust. If it were not for the importance of the case, I would never have run a binary only software that even pulls other binary only software in the background.

Thomas Wuensche

[gunnarre]

I run a GPU folding setup in a virtual machine, with PCI device passthrough to the GPU. That isolates security issues to the guest operating system which holds no personal data, as well as the network. There is always a risk, of course, of security flaws in the virtual machine or firmware which lets a guest OS break into the host OS, but I consider the virtual machine a sort of a "defense in depth" approach at least. (If the FAH client is vulnerable, then it also needs a vulnerable/misconfigured virtual machine to harm the host.) That setup makes the GPU inaccessible to the host OS for graphics use, but I only run it when I'm not using the graphics card.

That is not to say that code review is useless, of course, but it's one way you can set FAH up if you're skeptical about a program which downloads binaries and runs them on your computer.

[Neil-B]

We're hoping we can get enough usable data to the chemists by Monday, but may let this first back go through the end of next week before starting Weekly Sprint #2. and then go weekly from there.

We may be struggling to complete these as fast as you hoped ... Did I also see another step back on the progress bar today - could have sworn it was above 40% but then stepped back to 39% ... But hey if you needed to add more then it is what it is.

Ah ... Just spotted your tweet ... https://twitter.com/jchodera/status/1290343349786800128

[psaam0001]

I just added a laptop I was not using for other purposes at the moment to my arsenal....

Paul

[bruce]

Every folding device/slot is helpful.

If your laptop supports Optimus, you'll need to configure it for high-performance (nvidia GPU) and disable the Intel GPU power saving mode.

[psaam0001]

It is only a 2-core AMD E2-9000, so I won't be pounding out many jobs quickly on that CPU.

Paul

PS: I stopped folding on that laptop, as time frames were not looking good for the CPU job.

[Knish]

if anyone is comfortable signing up for free trial services with Microsoft with their credit cards and then canceling within 30 days, the Azure portion of this guide is ready for those to try their hand at cloud computing, written with detailed step by step instructions with pictures to help first-timers. (i'm still working some Google Cloud Platform kinks out, so that portion isn't ready yet) https://github.com/gitHu6-newb/FoldingAtAltitude

[YosiMor]

We've been working behind the scenes on a revamp of our web site. It went live today (http://folding.stanford.edu/home). This is part of our larger plan to make FAH more friendly and easy to use, especially to non-experts.

With that said, we're now thinking about next steps to make FAH more fun and appealing to experts, such as computer enthusiasts and gamers. We're in the early stages of deciding what would be useful there. If you have ideas, please do give us some feedback. As always, we can't implement everything, but we are curious to see what people think.

I just visited this thread regarding the "New web site", without realizing at first that it was started in July 2013 and is thus no longer "new" at all!

And it might very well be that the current contents of "FoldingAtHome.org/home/" (to which "folding.stanford.edu/home" redirects today) might be very different from the then-"new" contents, but I'd like to nevertheless provide some belated feedback on the current contents. (I also realize that, today, the "naked" FoldingAtHome.org domain is mapped to the landing page for the new "TOGETHER WE ARE POWERFUL" campaign, but the "TAKE ME HOME" link at its upper-right corner still links to this current "home" page, making the latter still relevant.)

I'd like to suggest that the visual layout of the "home" page be slightly reorganized, in order to maximize the "conversion" rate of new, non-expert, visitors who might have somehow been brought directly to this page without yet knowing anything about FAH ... into enthusiastic "partners" who not only start folding themselves, but also actively start recruiting their friends and family to do so as well.

At the very least, the "map of the world" image that currently takes up almost the entire "real estate" initially visible "above the fold" -- forcing the newbie visitor to manually scroll down in order to obtain even the most minimal explanation of "what is this site?!", without even helping to trigger any curiosity that might provide some "incentive" to actually do so --- should either be eliminated, somehow enhanced, or at least moved down to the very bottom of the page, way "below the fold." It is well known that anything that weakens what a visitor immediately sees in the first seconds after arriving to a new web page, especially if the user will need to proactively perform even the simplest of actions (such as manually scrolling down or clicking on a link or a button), significantly reduces the effectiveness of the page in convincing the user to perform the desired "call-to-action."

For reference, here is what a new visitor initially sees, above the fold, when first landing on the "home" page:


I would guess that the home-page's "conversion rate" would significantly increase if the first things the new visitor sees would instead be rearranged to something like the following (existing) sections, in order:

• "WHY WE NEED YOU" / "FIGHT DISEASES TOGETHER WITH US."
• "START FOLDING NOW"
• "FOLDING?"
• "LATEST POSTS"

Ultimately, the data from Google Analytics should be used to choose content and layout that has been empirically shown to maximize effectiveness.