How to abort a way to big WU?

asdhjsdjdj · Post by **asdhjsdjdj** » Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:06 pm

Dear people,

I have a WU running on a GPU which is simply too big. The ETA is 7 days and the expiration date is in 7 days as well. I am not able to keep my computer running without breaks at full power for a week because I need to work on it. On top of that, when I pause the process it actually looses some of its progress which is probably a technical issue I should post somewhere else.
To summarize I know that I will not complete this WU before it expires and I really want to simply abort it.
Can anyone tell me how to do it?

Thanks!

Jorgeminator · Post by **Jorgeminator** » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:28 pm

What GPU do you have? Seven days sounds like a long time for any GPU... When you pause the WU it falls back to the latest checkpoint, that's normal.

Neil-B · Post by **Neil-B** » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:46 pm

Would be worth posting a log including both the log header and the start of the WU so that someone can check if it is malformed and report it … They will then give you the best way to dump it.

uyaem · Post by **uyaem** » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:13 pm

asdhjsdjdj wrote:[...] when I pause the process it actually looses some of its progress which is probably a technical issue I should post somewhere else.

This may be down to the following setting and not actually a bug:

Neil-B · Post by **Neil-B** » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:25 pm

You need to post a log - viewtopic.php?f=24&t=26036 - there are a few malformed WUs around, or it may be a configuration issue … but without it any suggestions are simply guesswork.

jrweiss · Post by **jrweiss** » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:34 pm

Also, the time estimates for WUs are not accurate early in the process. You might give it a day...

Post by **Joe_H** » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:32 am

The checkpoint frequency set in FAHControl only applies to CPU folding. For GPU folding the checkpoint occurs at an interval set by the researcher when they set up the project. Typically the interval is between 2 and 5%.

As you have not posted any part of your log, we have no idea which project you have, or what kind of GPU it is being processed on.

Post by **bruce** » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:48 am

Suppose you receive a new (to you) WU assignment for your GPU, no estimate can be made until we know the actual time between starting to fold it and reaching the first checkpoint. Suppose the researcher has set the first checkpoint as 2% and it takes your machine 2 hrs to get to 2%. An estimated duration of the WU is therefor 100 hrs for 100% or just over 4 days to complete the WU.

But what estimate should FAH post BEFORE completing that first 2 hrs of work? You have completed an unknown amount of progress in an unknown amount of time. FAHClient needs to make a wild guess. All you know is that somebody set a deadline of 7 days and your machine has started working on it. Eureka: How about us guessing that it will be completed by the deadline. It's just an estimate anyway. Nobody will assume it's accurate and it will be refined in a couple of hours anyway when there is some ACTUAL data on which to make a better estimate.

All NEW WUs start out estimating you'll finish by the deadline. If you eventually get another assignment for the same project some time in the future, the initial estimated rate of progress will be based on this first WU and it will be reasonably accurate even though there is no actual data for that second WU.

If you receive a new WU for your CPU, however, the first checkpoint will be after 15 minutes processing, estimated durations of CPU assignments converge to actual numbers much more quickly.

STFC9F22 · Post by **STFC9F22** » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:46 pm

Hi,
I have no authoritative knowledge of the workings of the software, however I do have some years experience of running the Advanced Control in Windows.

Regarding the pause process causing work to be lost, I believe the replies above to be incorrect (at least for my environment, Windows 10 using the Advanced Control). For me work is not actually lost on Pause although the Advanced Control software might give that impression. When pause is pressed the Progress figure typically reverts to the whole percentage figure below the current progress e.g. 89.76% changes to read 89.00%. My assumption is that this corresponds to the previous checkpoint (for GPUs as set by the project, overriding the checkpoint frequency value in the configuration settings as Bruce explains above). However, it seems to me that Pause closes down gracefully by either saving the current state or, more likely, the incremental change from the checkpoint. When monitoring the Progress figure on resuming from pause, although the Progress does initially report the lower whole percentage figure this rapidly (within seconds) reverts to the full progress figure (or slightly higher) shown at the point of Pause.

My understanding is that progress only fully reverts to the previous checkpoint in an uncontrolled shutdown and as such circumstances for me are extremely rare I set my configuration to the maximum 30 minutes (albeit as Bruce states this configuration setting only applies to CPU Work Units).

EDIT: *** Apologies***

In the light of Joe’s post below I have checked and agree that what I have posted applies only to CPU work Units and that work is in fact lost by pausing GPU Work Units.

In the case of CPU Work Units pressing pause causes a fresh checkpoint to be taken when the processing stops. Although the displayed Progress percentage is initially truncated to a whole number, on resumption of processing the process resumes from the fractional percentage at which it was paused. In Windows this can be seen in the ‘FAHClient -> Work -> <Work Queue ID> -> 01’ folder where on pause the file timestamps indicate that the ‘state.cpt’ file is copied to the ‘state_prev.cpt’ file and the ‘state.cpt’ file is updated.

In the case of GPU work Units a different scheme applies where pause does not trigger a fresh checkpoint. Again the displayed Progress is initially truncated to a whole number but if that does not correspond to the last checkpoint, processing will resume from a lower percentage (as Joe advises a multiple of 5%). For GPU Work Units in Windows the timestamp on the ‘checkpointState.xml’ file in the ‘FAHClient ->Work -> <Work Queue ID> -> 01’ folder appears to show the time of the most recent checkpoint giving an indication of how much processing time would be lost by pressing pause.

Post by **Joe_H** » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:30 am

Your understanding only applies to CPU WUs. As I explained above, the checkpoint frequency is set by the researcher. If it is set for every 5%, then if you pause at any point, then the GPU WU will restart at the last 5% checkpoint.

If you want to verify this, look at the actual figures entered into the log file.

asdhjsdjdj · Post by **asdhjsdjdj** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:03 pm

Thank you for your replies and sorry I didn't post the logs earlier.

So I allowed the Client to finish the unit and it did indeed take a week to do so.
I'll paste the last log of the GPU WU try to remove as much of the log about the CPU WUs that were processed at the same time.

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*********************** Log Started 2020-04-07T06:00:59Z ***********************
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******************************* Date: 2020-04-09 *******************************
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HaloJones · Post by **HaloJones** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:10 pm

Hate to say it but a week's folding to produce 7622 points doesn't seem like it's worth it. That's around 1000ppd. For reference, if you dropped $200 on a used 1070 you could get 800000ppd so 800x as much.

JimboPalmer · Post by **JimboPalmer** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:18 pm

I would just remove the GPU slot.

It does not support OpenCL 1.2 and so should not be getting work. It is about 7 times slower that the weakest 'new' Graphics card you can buy, the GT 1030.

Removing the GPU slot may free up one more CPU to fold.

Post by **bruce** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:27 pm

Adding the "he asked to pause, but I'm going to make a checkpoint first" function sounds like a great idea but it seems to be causing corrupt checkpoint files.

When you tell Windows to shut down, it notifies the running processes and many shut down immediately. The ones that are left may continue to process for a few moments OR the program may issue a popup like "You need to save your work"

Windows waits a predetermined time and then kills the remaining processes. Unfortunately sometimes FAH takes too long syncing parts of the FAHCore internal processes before starting to write the checkpoint. Killing the FAHCore during the internal processing, the closing of the files and/or syncing the cache to disk at that point in time is very dangerous.

asdhjsdjdj · Post by **asdhjsdjdj** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:39 pm

I just removed the GPU slot as suggested and that also aborted the current WU. ^^
Seems like the GPU is older than I remembered it to be xD

Thanks for your help!

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