fresh windows 10 installation

If you're new to FAH and need help getting started or you have very basic questions, start here.

Moderators: Site Moderators, FAHC Science Team

FAMAS
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:30 pm

fresh windows 10 installation

Post by FAMAS »

installed folding@home beta version. set cpu manually to 2, same number as physical core, no hyperthreading.full power. cpu usage is stuck at 50%. no logs. in windows 7, cpu usage was 100% at this setting.
PS3EdOlkkola
Posts: 177
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:48 pm
Hardware configuration: 10 SMP folding slots on Intel Phi "Knights Landing" system, configured as 24 CPUs/slot
9 AMD GPU folding slots
31 Nvidia GPU folding slots
50 total folding slots
Average PPD/slot = 459,500
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by PS3EdOlkkola »

When the CPU slot option is set to "-1", how many CPUs does your machine report?
Image
Hardware config viewtopic.php?f=66&t=17997&p=277235#p277235
FAMAS
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:30 pm

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by FAMAS »

PS3EdOlkkola wrote:When the CPU slot option is set to "-1", how many CPUs does your machine report?
set cpu manually to 2, same number as physical core. read original post.
Joe_H
Site Admin
Posts: 7927
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:41 pm
Hardware configuration: Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp4
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp2
Location: W. MA

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by Joe_H »

Unless the installation did not go correctly, there should be a log file. So are you saying nothing shows up in the log pane of FAHControl or the AppData directory used by the folding client? What does the System Info tab show for CWD?
Image

iMac 2.8 i7 12 GB smp8, Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp6
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp3
FAMAS
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:30 pm

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by FAMAS »

i always disable logs, set power to full, manually set cpu core number to 2. in windows 7, this setting showed 100% usage. client version was and is latest beta. 50% usage in windows 10 clean installation from original iso.
FAMAS
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:30 pm

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by FAMAS »

all setting setup manually as written in original post.
Joe_H
Site Admin
Posts: 7927
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:41 pm
Hardware configuration: Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp4
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp2
Location: W. MA

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by Joe_H »

Without the logs there is a limited amount we can do to help you troubleshoot your installation. You also did not answer the the other question about the working directory. In addition, which installation directions for folding did you follow?
Image

iMac 2.8 i7 12 GB smp8, Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp6
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp3
PS3EdOlkkola
Posts: 177
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:48 pm
Hardware configuration: 10 SMP folding slots on Intel Phi "Knights Landing" system, configured as 24 CPUs/slot
9 AMD GPU folding slots
31 Nvidia GPU folding slots
50 total folding slots
Average PPD/slot = 459,500
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by PS3EdOlkkola »

Is it correct to assume the hardware is identical and you have ONLY changed from Windows 7 to Windows 10? If that's true, do a standard install of FAH with all the default settings. You'll then have logs to allow analyzing the problem(s) further. If you want to strip out what you consider to be unnecessary logging after the problem(s) solved, go for it. You've been around long enough to know that you'll get lots of help if you have the logs, since that's where all the diagnostic work starts.
Image
Hardware config viewtopic.php?f=66&t=17997&p=277235#p277235
FAMAS
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:30 pm

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by FAMAS »

Joe_H wrote:Without the logs there is a limited amount we can do to help you troubleshoot your installation. You also did not answer the teh other question about the working directory. In addition, which installation directions for folding did you follow?
CWD is default, no modifications done.
PS3EdOlkkola wrote:Is it correct to assume the hardware is identical and you have ONLY changed from Windows 7 to Windows 10? If that's true, do a standard install of FAH with all the default settings. You'll then have logs to allow analyzing the problem(s) further. If you want to strip out what you consider to be unnecessary logging after the problem(s) solved, go for it. You've been around long enough to know that you'll get lots of help if you have the logs, since that's where all the diagnostic work starts.
correct assumption. as per your request, have performed a clean installation now without any of my manual configs.

07:16:10:Saving configuration to config.xml
07:16:10:<config>
07:16:10: <!-- Network -->
07:16:10: <proxy v=':8080'/>
07:16:10:
07:16:10: <!-- Slot Control -->
07:16:10: <power v='full'/>
07:16:10:
07:16:10: <!-- Folding Slots -->
07:16:10: <slot id='0' type='CPU'/>
07:16:10:</config>
07:16:45:Saving configuration to config.xml
07:16:45:<config>
07:16:45: <!-- Network -->
07:16:45: <proxy v=':8080'/>
07:16:45:
07:16:45: <!-- Slot Control -->
07:16:45: <power v='full'/>
07:16:45:
07:16:45: <!-- Folding Slots -->
07:16:45: <slot id='0' type='CPU'/>
07:16:45:</config>

this is all that shows, followed by work unit progress percentage. same as 7, but here, task manager shows 50% usage for fahcore_a7/fahcore_a4
FAMAS
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:30 pm

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by FAMAS »

Code: Select all

*********************** Log Started 2017-03-29T07:22:41Z ***********************
07:22:41:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
07:22:41:      Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
07:22:41:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2016 Stanford University
07:22:41:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
07:22:41:         Args: 
07:22:41:       Config: C:\ProgramData\FAHClient\config.xml
07:22:41:******************************** Build ********************************
07:22:41:      Version: 7.4.16
07:22:41:         Date: Jan 6 2017
07:22:41:         Time: 00:25:14
07:22:41:   Repository: Git
07:22:41:     Revision: a9e9e27dc2ee6ff01398c439677bc27f6cb74032
07:22:41:       Branch: master
07:22:41:     Compiler: Visual C++ 2008
07:22:41:      Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /Ox -arch:SSE /MT
07:22:41:     Platform: win32 10
07:22:41:         Bits: 32
07:22:41:         Mode: Release
07:22:41:******************************* System ********************************
07:22:41:          CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz
07:22:41:       CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7
07:22:41:         CPUs: 2
07:22:41:       Memory: 1.83GiB
07:22:41:  Free Memory: 1.06GiB
07:22:41:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
07:22:41:   OS Version: 6.2
07:22:41:  Has Battery: false
07:22:41:   On Battery: false
07:22:41:   UTC Offset: 6
07:22:41:          PID: 528
07:22:41:          CWD: C:\ProgramData\FAHClient
07:22:41:           OS: Windows 10 Pro
07:22:41:      OS Arch: X86
07:22:41:         GPUs: 0
07:22:41:         CUDA: Not detected: Failed to open dynamic library 'nvcuda.dll': The
07:22:41:               specified module could not be found.
07:22:41:
07:22:41:       OpenCL: Not detected: Failed to open dynamic library 'OpenCL.dll': The
07:22:41:               specified module could not be found.
07:22:41:
07:22:41:Win32 Service: false
07:22:41:***********************************************************************
07:22:41:<config>
07:22:41:  <!-- Network -->
07:22:41:  <proxy v=':8080'/>
07:22:41:
07:22:41:  <!-- Slot Control -->
07:22:41:  <power v='full'/>
07:22:41:
07:22:41:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
07:22:41:  <slot id='0' type='CPU'/>
07:22:41:</config>
07:22:41:Trying to access database...
07:22:41:Successfully acquired database lock
07:22:41:Enabled folding slot 00: READY cpu:2
07:22:41:WU00:FS00:Starting
07:22:41:WARNING:WU00:FS00:AS lowered CPUs from 2 to 1
07:22:41:WU00:FS00:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:\ProgramData\FAHClient\cores/fahwebx.stanford.edu/cores/Win32/x86/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 528 -checkpoint 15 -np 1
07:22:42:WU00:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 1108
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:Core PID:4076
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:FahCore 0xa4 started
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:0xa4:
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:0xa4:*------------------------------*
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:0xa4:
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
07:22:43:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Ensuring status. Please wait.
07:22:52:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
07:22:52:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Working with standard loops on this execution.
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Previous termination of core was improper.
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Files status OK
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Expanded 739145 -> 1926016 (decompressed 260.5 percent)
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=739145 data_size=1926016, decompressed_data_size=1926016 diff=0
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Project: 8621 (Run 6, Clone 16, Gen 17)
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:
07:22:53:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Entering M.D.
07:22:59:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Mapping NT from 1 to 1 
07:23:01:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Completed 0 out of 2500000 steps  (0%)
Mod edit: added Code tags to log
Joe_H
Site Admin
Posts: 7927
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:41 pm
Hardware configuration: Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp4
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp2
Location: W. MA

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by Joe_H »

Apparently the AS reduced the CPU:2 request to CPU:1 for this particular assignment, that is causing it to only run at 50%. Why I can not tell, the WU download prior to this log. For this type of assignment the WU and core wrapper code will keep the processing limited to CPU:1.
Image

iMac 2.8 i7 12 GB smp8, Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp6
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp3
7im
Posts: 10179
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:30 pm
Hardware configuration: Intel i7-4770K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR3-2133 Corsair Vengence (black/red), EVGA GTX 760 @ 1200 MHz, on an Asus Maximus VI Hero MB (black/red), in a blacked out Antec P280 Tower, with a Xigmatek Night Hawk (black) HSF, Seasonic 760w Platinum (black case, sleeves, wires), 4 SilenX 120mm Case fans with silicon fan gaskets and silicon mounts (all black), a 512GB Samsung SSD (black), and a 2TB Black Western Digital HD (silver/black).
Location: Arizona
Contact:

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by 7im »

There still seems to be a crippling legacy installer issue where the very first CPU work unit will ONLY run with 1 cpu core. It should revert back to using as many as configured after the first WU completes.
How to provide enough information to get helpful support
Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.
Joe_H
Site Admin
Posts: 7927
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:41 pm
Hardware configuration: Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp4
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp2
Location: W. MA

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by Joe_H »

Since this message shows up in the log:

Code: Select all

07:22:41:WARNING:WU00:FS00:AS lowered CPUs from 2 to 1
it might be something different than the installer bug. The slot is shown in the log as being set for CPU:2.
Image

iMac 2.8 i7 12 GB smp8, Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp6
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp3
7im
Posts: 10179
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:30 pm
Hardware configuration: Intel i7-4770K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR3-2133 Corsair Vengence (black/red), EVGA GTX 760 @ 1200 MHz, on an Asus Maximus VI Hero MB (black/red), in a blacked out Antec P280 Tower, with a Xigmatek Night Hawk (black) HSF, Seasonic 760w Platinum (black case, sleeves, wires), 4 SilenX 120mm Case fans with silicon fan gaskets and silicon mounts (all black), a 512GB Samsung SSD (black), and a 2TB Black Western Digital HD (silver/black).
Location: Arizona
Contact:

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by 7im »

Joe_H wrote:Since this message shows up in the log:

Code: Select all

07:22:41:WARNING:WU00:FS00:AS lowered CPUs from 2 to 1
it might be something different than the installer bug. The slot is shown in the log as being set for CPU:2.
Agreed. If the next WU does the same thing, then it is something else.
How to provide enough information to get helpful support
Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.
foldy
Posts: 2040
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:43 pm
Hardware configuration: Folding@Home Client 7.6.13 (1 GPU slots)
Windows 7 64bit
Intel Core i5 2500k@4Ghz
Nvidia gtx 1080ti driver 441

Re: fresh windows 10 installation

Post by foldy »

@FAMAS: By the way shouldn't the i3-2330M as 2 core/4 thread CPU be shown as CPUs: 4? Or did you disable Hyperthreading?
Post Reply