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Pepperami
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First post be gentle :)

Post by Pepperami »

Hey guys

Ok I haven't used the forums yet, I have been folding for a little while now, but this doesn't seem to be going right so I wanted to check in here and see if anyones got any ideas :)

My CPU is an Intel i7 4770k and my graphics card is a Radeon HD 7900 series

The GFX Card seems to be ok with the work units, I am clocking up estimated points of some 27000

The CPU on the other hand seems to be nowhere NEAR that mark

It says on the web control page where it says RUNNING on the CPU Tab "CPU 7"

I have no idea whether this is using more cores, its a top end processor so I am very disappointed its not seeming to do the work :(

I thought it would kick the GFX Card figures into touch but apparently not :(

I do not have a great deal of expertise so when I installed FAH I did it on EXPRESS

If anyones able to help me it would be very appreciated, I fold for at least 6 hours a day, but it would be good to get the maximum out of it and currently it just isnt performing as it should :(

Best wishes

Chris
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P5-133XL
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Hardware configuration: Machine #1:

Intel Q9450; 2x2GB=8GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460; Windows Server 2008 X64 (SP1).

Machine #2:

Intel Q6600; 2x2GB=4GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460 video card; Windows 7 X64.

Machine 3:

Dell Dimension 8400, 3.2GHz P4 4x512GB Ram, Video card GTX 460, Windows 7 X32

I am currently folding just on the 5x GTX 460's for aprox. 70K PPD
Location: Salem. OR USA

Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by P5-133XL »

Please supply the folding log including the system and config sections (Click refresh before the copy and paste).
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Pepperami
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Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by Pepperami »

Will do as soon as I get home tonight thank you :-)
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Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by bruce »

We'll know more when you provide that information, but your expectations are a bit high. There's no easy way to compare a quad-core CPU to a GPU with 1500 to 2000 unified shaders. Your CPU will do useful work but they don't earn points that compare to what your GPU will do.

In the early days of FAH, the CPU was the workhorse and a lot was accomplished in those days, but when GPUs were added to the mix, science was able to progress more rapidly. That didn't reduce the value of the CPU work, but it raised everybody's expectations.
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Pepperami
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Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by Pepperami »

Hey guys

Sorry for the delay had things to do :)

Ok, firstly, a couple of screenies of the information you need, then the log file

Maybe my expectation of the CPU is too high, probably because I do not fully understand how it works, and because I have an i7 CPU which I thought was probably at the time the best that money could buy it would be capable of racking up some decent points but maybe not :)

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*********************** Log Started 2014-08-29T08:02:38Z ***********************
08:02:38:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
08:02:38:      Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
08:02:38:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2014 Stanford University
08:02:38:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
08:02:38:         Args: 
08:02:38:       Config: C:/Users/Chris/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/config.xml
08:02:38:******************************** Build ********************************
08:02:38:      Version: 7.4.4
08:02:38:         Date: Mar 4 2014
08:02:38:         Time: 20:26:54
08:02:38:      SVN Rev: 4130
08:02:38:       Branch: fah/trunk/client
08:02:38:     Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1200
08:02:38:      Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /Qdiag-disable:4297,4103,1786,279 /Ox -arch:SSE
08:02:38:               /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qopenmp /Qrestrict /MT /Qmkl
08:02:38:     Platform: win32 XP
08:02:38:         Bits: 32
08:02:38:         Mode: Release
08:02:38:******************************* System ********************************
08:02:38:          CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
08:02:38:       CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3
08:02:38:         CPUs: 8
08:02:38:       Memory: 15.89GiB
08:02:38:  Free Memory: 13.73GiB
08:02:38:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
08:02:38:   OS Version: 6.1
08:02:38:  Has Battery: false
08:02:38:   On Battery: false
08:02:38:   UTC Offset: 1
08:02:38:          PID: 3632
08:02:38:          CWD: C:/Users/Chris/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient
08:02:38:           OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
08:02:38:      OS Arch: AMD64
08:02:38:         GPUs: 1
08:02:38:        GPU 0: ATI:5 Tahiti XT [Radeon R9 200/HD 7900/8970]
08:02:38:         CUDA: Not detected
08:02:38:Win32 Service: false
08:02:38:***********************************************************************
08:02:38:<config>
08:02:38:  <!-- Network -->
08:02:38:  <proxy v=':8080'/>
08:02:38:
08:02:38:  <!-- Slot Control -->
08:02:38:  <power v='FULL'/>
08:02:38:
08:02:38:  <!-- User Information -->
08:02:38:  <passkey v='********************************'/>
08:02:38:  <team v='86565'/>
08:02:38:  <user v='Pepperam1'/>
08:02:38:
08:02:38:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
08:02:38:  <slot id='0' type='CPU'/>
08:02:38:  <slot id='1' type='GPU'/>
08:02:38:</config>
08:02:38:Trying to access database...
08:02:38:Successfully acquired database lock
08:02:38:Enabled folding slot 00: READY cpu:7
08:02:38:Enabled folding slot 01: READY gpu:0:Tahiti XT [Radeon R9 200/HD 7900/8970]
08:02:38:WU01:FS01:Starting
08:02:38:WU01:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Chris/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/ATI/R600/Core_17.fah/FahCore_17.exe -dir 01 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 3632 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 0 -gpu-vendor ati
08:02:38:WU01:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 6968
08:02:38:WU01:FS01:Core PID:6996
08:02:38:WU01:FS01:FahCore 0x17 started
08:02:38:WU03:FS00:Starting
08:02:38:WU03:FS00:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Chris/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 03 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 3632 -checkpoint 15
08:02:38:WU03:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 7012
08:02:38:WU03:FS00:Core PID:7028
08:02:38:WU03:FS00:FahCore 0xa4 started
08:02:39:WU03:FS00:0xa4:
08:02:39:WU03:FS00:0xa4:*------------------------------*
08:02:39:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
08:02:39:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
08:02:39:WU03:FS00:0xa4:
08:02:39:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
08:02:39:WU03:FS00:0xa4:- Ensuring status. Please wait.
08:02:39:WU01:FS01:0x17:*********************** Log Started 2014-08-29T08:02:38Z ***********************
08:02:39:WU01:FS01:0x17:Project: 9201 (Run 863, Clone 1, Gen 19)
08:02:39:WU01:FS01:0x17:Unit: 0x000000386652edc45399f7f6e3d3a728
08:02:39:WU01:FS01:0x17:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
08:02:39:WU01:FS01:0x17:Machine: 1
08:02:39:WU01:FS01:0x17:Digital signatures verified
08:02:39:WU01:FS01:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
08:02:39:WU01:FS01:0x17:Version 0.0.52
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:- Working with standard loops on this execution.
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:- Previous termination of core was improper.
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:- Files status OK
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:- Expanded 201013 -> 421920 (decompressed 209.8 percent)
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=201013 data_size=421920, decompressed_data_size=421920 diff=0
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Project: 6372 (Run 60, Clone 0, Gen 81)
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:
08:02:48:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Entering M.D.
08:02:54:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Using Gromacs checkpoints
08:02:54:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Mapping NT from 1 to 1 
08:02:54:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Resuming from checkpoint
08:02:54:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Verified 03/wudata_01.log
08:02:54:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Verified 03/wudata_01.trr
08:02:54:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Verified 03/wudata_01.xtc
08:02:54:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Verified 03/wudata_01.edr
08:02:54:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Completed 1769980 out of 2500000 steps  (70%)
08:02:59:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 0 out of 5000000 steps (0%)
08:02:59:WU01:FS01:0x17:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
08:04:16:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Completed 1775000 out of 2500000 steps  (71%)
08:06:10:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 50000 out of 5000000 steps (1%)
08:09:19:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 100000 out of 5000000 steps (2%)
08:10:56:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Completed 1800000 out of 2500000 steps  (72%)
08:12:27:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 150000 out of 5000000 steps (3%)
08:15:34:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 200000 out of 5000000 steps (4%)
08:17:36:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Completed 1825000 out of 2500000 steps  (73%)
08:18:42:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 250000 out of 5000000 steps (5%)
08:21:50:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 300000 out of 5000000 steps (6%)
08:24:19:WU03:FS00:0xa4:Completed 1850000 out of 2500000 steps  (74%)




If anyone has any suggestions please let me know :)

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P5-133XL
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Hardware configuration: Machine #1:

Intel Q9450; 2x2GB=8GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460; Windows Server 2008 X64 (SP1).

Machine #2:

Intel Q6600; 2x2GB=4GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460 video card; Windows 7 X64.

Machine 3:

Dell Dimension 8400, 3.2GHz P4 4x512GB Ram, Video card GTX 460, Windows 7 X32

I am currently folding just on the 5x GTX 460's for aprox. 70K PPD
Location: Salem. OR USA

Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by P5-133XL »

Earlier, did you configure your CPU into a whole bunch of slots (one per core?), then removed all but one slot? It is the only explanation that I can think of that would produce 5 uni-processor WU's just sitting in the work queue waiting for the CPU to get to them.

The CPU slot will not produce much PPD, till those WU's are cleared out. You have a bunch of single-core WU's that will only use one core of the eight possible. Once they go away, the client should fetch a multi-core WU and your CPU PPD should improve markedly.

Other than that, your config looks fine.
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Pepperami
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Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by Pepperami »

Yeah I did config the CPU for that as I thought I was doing it wrong, so where do I go from here what do I need to do to remove those extra units of work?
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P5-133XL
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Hardware configuration: Machine #1:

Intel Q9450; 2x2GB=8GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460; Windows Server 2008 X64 (SP1).

Machine #2:

Intel Q6600; 2x2GB=4GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460 video card; Windows 7 X64.

Machine 3:

Dell Dimension 8400, 3.2GHz P4 4x512GB Ram, Video card GTX 460, Windows 7 X32

I am currently folding just on the 5x GTX 460's for aprox. 70K PPD
Location: Salem. OR USA

Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by P5-133XL »

No need to remove them. By my calculations, all those WU's should finish before their deadlines as long as you run 24x7. The CPU will work on one at a time till they are all gone then the client will get a new WU that will work much better.
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ok mate thats great thank you ;)
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Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by 7im »

Adding the setting "-NT 7" as an "extra-core-arg" will help you rip through those WUs faster. Remove when done. See the Windows Install Guide on the fah web site, under Customizing Slots.
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Post by Joe_H »

The projects listed as queued up on your client were not released to run on 7 threads. So at most the number given in the "extra-core-arg" entry should be 6. Otherwise there is an increased risk of failure.
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Re: First post be gentle :)

Post by bruce »

Pepperami wrote:Maybe my expectation of the CPU is too high, probably because I do not fully understand how it works, and because I have an i7 CPU which I thought was probably at the time the best that money could buy it would be capable of racking up some decent points but maybe not :)
As I suggested above, a midrange-GPU with the help of a single CPU is able to outproduce the best of CPUs. A lot depends on your definition of "decent points" (Consider the fact that at one time, single-core CPUs like the Pentium4 produced one point per WU.) Nevertheless, if your CPU produces XX% of what your GPU does, running both will produce (100+XX)%, no matter what value XX takes on.
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