Getting small WU's on a Geforce Titan

[Ghot]

First here is my system:


Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard ( 1302 BIOS)
EVGA 06G-P4-2791-KR GeForce GTX TITAN 6GB 384 bit GDDR5
CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1866Mhz RAM (factory settings)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 CPU Cooler (push/pull)

WD 500GB Velociraptor - SATA III
WD 1TB Caviar Black FAEX - SATA III
WD 1TB Caviar Black FAEX - SATA III
LG GH22LS30 CD/DVD Burner

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W Quad EPS12V

DELL Ultrasharp U3011, 30" monitor
Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 THX Speakers (Black)
Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED Backlit Mechanical Keyboard (Cherry MX Black)
Logitech Optical M-100

Coolermaster ATCS 840 Full Tower Case
3x230mm, 1x120mm, Optional: 3x Scythe S-Flex SFF21G 120mm (installed)



Problem:

1. Folding on ONLY the TITAN, I get random WU's ranging from Estimated Credit of 3874 up to 14,093. I cannot choose which I get.
2. In Configure > Expert I cannot use Client-type // Advanced ...it generates an error, when I try.
3. I would LIKE to fold larger WU's for MORE Estimated Credit.
4. Currently I am running the 314.22 Nvidia drivers. My temps are fine, so I assume I can Fold much larger WU's, If I could figure out how to do it.


I'm computer literate, but FAH noob. Any help would be appreciated.

[7im]

1. This is by design. The servers send out the work units in the order they need the work to be completed in order the get the science done the quickest way. Sorry. The "advanced" setting is only a preference (a request), not a guarantee of WU selection.
2. All lower case. Case sensitive.
3. Setting "advanced" is the best you can do for this.
4. See #2.

[Ghot]

Well all lower case did the trick. At least it saved it this time....after this WU is finished, I'll post back with what, if any changes it made it WU size....thx for the help

[7im]

advanced is not related to workunit size. It's an indication you want to test late stage beta work units, like the core_17 work units.

[Ghot]

Now that's more like it ....version 7.3.6 ...with the changes.






This is what it used to look like :/

[kiore]

Until the core 17 came along the 7624 at 65kppd was pretty impressive.. 156kppd is really screaming along.
Hell the criteria for 'most powerful folder' for GPUs used to be over 20kppd per system just a few years ago..

[bruce]

advanced is not related to workunit size. It's an indication you want to test late stage beta work units, like the core_17 work units.

That's completely true but subject to rumors and false impressions. Adding or removing advanced will change the selection criteria so you're likely to get a WU from a different project. That project might have WUs with different characteristics, either larger or smaller. If it gives you what you want right now, fine, but new projects move to advanced and stable projects graduate from advanced so it'll give different sized WUs at some other time.

[Ghot]

Still have set to client-type advanced....just lost the FahCore 0x17....went back to 0x15 :/

[Joe_H]

Core 17 projects are just starting to come out, there are a limited number of WU's available compared to the ones from the older projects using Core 15. Conversely there are large numbers of people with folding systems trying to get Core 17 WU's. So at times there will not be any available when your system requests a new WU and you will be assigned one from another server with work available. As more projects are developed using Core 17 the supply will improve.

[P5-133XL]

There is no setting that guarantees Core_17 WU's. However, client-type = advanced give you a shot at one though.

[N0OA]

I noticed that I just had one of my machines log that it had an "05:09:05:WARNING:WU04:FS01:FahCore returned: CORE_OUTDATED (110 = 0x6e)" Since this machine has three GTX cards in it, two of them are not stuck in download waiting for the third to finish its WU. I assume all three will get the new core at the same time. The interesting thing is that the "new core WUs" that are "Downloading Core" all have the projected point value for the WU as very small point WU (<3100). Is there a ralationship between the new core_17 and the smaller WU? Or, is this just a coincidence?

N0OA

[7im]

Yes, the core is a requirement for that WU.

[Ghot]

Core 17 projects are just starting to come out, there are a limited number of WU's available compared to the ones from the older projects using Core 15. Conversely there are large numbers of people with folding systems trying to get Core 17 WU's. So at times there will not be any available when your system requests a new WU and you will be assigned one from another server with work available. As more projects are developed using Core 17 the supply will improve.

Well I can't see a reason to run a TITAN full out, and get FahCore 0x15 WU's, it's a waste of electricity for a ridiculously low Credit. Yes I DO want to help fold. I DO want to help cure diseases.

There are plenty of lesser machines out there to fold small WU's. If I can't GET large work units, I'm just shortening the life of my TITAN for WU's that could be run on a far far lesser GPU.

Maybe we need to rework this system, so it assigns large WU's to folks with better GPU's and smaller WU's to those with lesser GPUs. The same holds true for multiple TITAN systems. I restored from a July 10th backup and am back running an FaHCore 0x17 Project. I see no point in the larger electric bills and shorter life span of my GPU on projects that could be done with a 6870 or some such.


/edit It would seem a simple matter to create larger Projects, for the newer hardware. As I understand distributed computing, any given Project is broken down into smaller WU's and then "distributed". Might be time to start breaking down large projects into larger WU's. Especially since the FahCore 0x17 Projects have been being discussed on these forums, since early 2010.

[7im]

Regardless of how long core 17 has been in development, it still has to go through a complete validation process. As you are well aware, core 17 is still in late stage beta testing (advanced) mode. It's not even in a full public release yet.

Fold what you get.

[Napoleon]

And a low end guy like me would be happy to get only core_15 work as long as there's any left, once core_17 goes to full FAH. I get more than 2x PPD for core_15 work on my GT430, so as far as I'm concerned, you can have all the core_17 WUs you want. I'm under the impression that GTX 460 level GPU is the watershed where you start to gain any benefit from GPU QRB.

FYI, "far far lesser GPUs" like the GT430 and low end HD 5xxx GPUs can finish core_17 WUs well within Timeout, so if I get them, I fold them. However, there's no incentive for me to actively pursue them by setting advanced flag unless there's a specific need to test something.

Like already mentioned, there's a lot of interest in core_17 work and a limited amount of WUs for the time being. Most likely you got core_15 work only because there wasn't any core_17 work to go around at the moment. I'd say that is more than likely to change in the near future. Good things come to those who wait...

PS:
Apparently there hasn't been much activity on the FAH client side for a while, but I very much doubt PG devs are just walking around high-fiving each other. Most likely they've turned their attention to the infrastructure, so you just might get your wish, and I mine.