New Landing Page - Networked Computers?

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STFC9F22
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New Landing Page - Networked Computers?

Post by STFC9F22 »

Hi,

Like the new folding landing page but just in case no one has noticed, it looks to me as though the number of networked computers is being under-reported.

The video on the landing page (at 1:27) states that there are a million networked computers worldwide and, separately, donor rank is currently given out of 1,674,567 donors, so the currently reported figure of 167,833 networked computers seems to be about 10 times too small (I guess it uses a dynamic link and perhaps the format just needs another digit).

Is anyone on here in a position to say whether the figure is correct and if not whether the error has been reported?
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Post by k1wi »

As I understand it the 1 million figure is aspirational.

As to the 167,833 that number will be based on the number of computers currently folding as per http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/mai ... e=osstats2. The 1,674,567 donors are all individual donors who have folded at one time or another.
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Re: New Landing Page - Networked Computers?

Post by STFC9F22 »

Righty ho - thanks for the clarification.
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Re: New Landing Page - Networked Computers?

Post by codysluder »

Individual donors is not individual computers. I don't know about others, but I fold with 3 computers and a total of 5 slots. Which number adequately represents me?
STFC9F22
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Re: New Landing Page - Networked Computers?

Post by STFC9F22 »

Following the link provided by K1wi, the only figure in the table close to the figure on the Landing Page is the ‘Active Cores’ total, perhaps the disparity is due to different refresh times for the landing page and the table. [BTW the figures in the table don’t quite cast to those shown in its total row].

If active cores is the figure being used, it counts GPU and Operating System contributions separately, in addition the ‘Active CPUs’ column shows a lower figure than active cores for Operating Systems which suggests to me, as the name implies, that ‘Active Cores’ adds the number of cores of multi-core CPUs. I guess that you are represented by your number of GPUs and CPU cores added together, which would be equal to your slot count or higher if any of your CPUs fold using more than one core. Can anyone confirm this to be the case?
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Re: New Landing Page - Networked Computers?

Post by Qinsp »

Thought.

If you knew 10 people were cleaning up a illegal dump site on Saturday, would you go help?

Now if you knew 1000 were showing up, would you feel the same compulsion?

It isn't that you don't want to help, but you don't want to stand around with your hands in your pockets either.
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Post by bruce »

Qinsp wrote:Thought.

If you knew 10 people were cleaning up a illegal dump site on Saturday, would you go help?

Now if you knew 1000 were showing up, would you feel the same compulsion?

It isn't that you don't want to help, but you don't want to stand around with your hands in your pockets either.
The only problem that I have with your question is that the way you're wording it suggests that with 1000 people, the dump is small enough that the job can be completed rather quickly. In the case of FAH, it would be more like cleaning up 1000 square miles ... the amount of FAH work that needs to be done far exceeds the number of people.

Perhaps the video can say Join with XXXXXX networked computers; we have so much work that we can really use YYYYYYYY.
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Post by SodaAnt »

The other issue is people who change names, I know a few teams that have probably 10x as many users as actual folders, and that's not dealing with the people who have stopped folding anymore, or other reasons for the number of computers to drop off.
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Post by bruce »

FAH normally only counts active clients. If you haven't returned a WU in X days, you don't count any more. I'd hope they'd be using that number in the video, not every inactive machine.
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Re: New Landing Page - Networked Computers?

Post by STFC9F22 »

For information, since my earlier post suggesting that the Networked Computers total on the Landing Page equated to Active Cores, the data in the Client Statistics table has changed significantly (and the total row has been corrected).

The Networked Computers figure (currently 163,141) now aligns most closely with the Active CPUs column (a count of CPUs and GPUs at 162,879) rather than Active Cores (which is now reported as 325,812 an approximate doubling of the previous figure).
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Re: New Landing Page - Networked Computers?

Post by bruce »

See also the most recent blog post: http://folding.typepad.com/news/2013/02 ... scale.html
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