Project 8014

[Herbert F.]

Hi!

First, sorry for my bad english.

I folded my first WU successfully on 01.08.2012 (Project 8014, R 2, C 946, G 53). This Project is only worth 106.60 points, but projects 8012 and 8013 are worth 180.60 points.
All 3 projects are from the same type.

I have a AMD A8-5500 CPU. TPF was 1min 48sec. and ~850 PPD without bonus points (SMP with all 4 cores, no other programs running). This seems very low for me.

Are the points OK?

[7im]

Hello Herbert F., welcome to the forum.

106 is the base points. The client needs a passkey to get bonus points. Did you request a Passkey? And add to the client setup?

[Zagen30]

Welcome to the forum Herbert.

If you look at the project summary page, you'll notice that project 8014 has shorter deadlines than 8012/13, hence why it's worth less. All projects are benchmarked to earn the same Points Per Day, at least on the benchmark machine; hardware that differs from the benchmark machine may not scale evenly. But, in general (at least among projects that run on the same hardware), the longer the deadline, the more points it earns per WU.

The bonus point scheme was designed to encourage quick returns. As a result, many bonus-eligible projects have rather low base points, with the majority of your points coming from the bonus. With bonus, a TPF of 1:48 on an 8014 would come out to around 4500 PPD. That sounds roughly right for a quad-core AMD CPU, but I'm not very familiar with them. The breakdown would be 106.6 base points and 718.3 bonus, which is a good example of how much you earn from the bonus. If you don't have one yet, get a passkey so you can start earning bonus points after turning in 10 bonus-eligible (SMP and many uniprocessor) WUs.

[bruce]

Welcome to foldingforum.org, Herbert F.

(Project 8014 ... is only worth 106.60 points, but projects 8012 and 8013 are worth 180.60 points. All 3 projects are from the same type. . . .

Yes, all three projects appear to be quite similar from everything we can tell, EXCEPT the deadlines and the points. Nevertheless, there are internal scientific differences (or one project would be sufficient) and apparently those differences caused 8014 to run faster than 8012/8013 on the benchmark machine. Assigning a shorter deadline and fewer points per WU should even out that difference in terms of PPD (points per day). That also means it should run faster on your machine.

[Herbert F.]

Thanks all for your answers!

I read this forum for over a year now and folded always anonymously. I'm familiar with the bonus points system and i have a passkey since Monday.

I saw an i7-3770k on project 8048 (TPF 26 sec., not overclocked) getting ~2800 PPD without bonus points. This is over 3 times faster than an A8-5500. I'm shocked.

Thanks for clarifying!

[Nathan_P]

Thanks all for your answers!

I read this forum for over a year now and folded always anonymously. I'm familiar with the bonus points system and i have a passkey since Monday.

I saw an i7-3770k on project 8048 (TPF 26 sec., not overclocked) getting ~2800 PPD without bonus points. This is over 3 times faster than an A8-5500. I'm shocked.

Thanks for clarifying!

Hi And welcome.
Unfortunately you can't compare the 2 processors directly.

An AMD A8 is at the lower end of the AMD processor tree in terms of how powerful it is. the i7-3770K is a brand new high end CPU, unfortunately there will always be something bigger and greater in the computing world - we fold with what we have, all the WU count towards the goal. There are machines out there with far more power than that i7