Points Errors

[pmasley]

I have closed over 10 WUs in the past three weeks, but was only awarded a little over 100 points. What gives?

[P5-133XL]

You need to include WU name plus (run, clone, gen) and then people can lookup the specific details of the returned WU. You can find the information in your FAHLOG.txt file.

Without specific details, no one can tell you what is going on. It is possible, that your WU's are erroring out and you are getting few to no points. It is possible, that you are just getting low point WU's. One just can't tell, without looking at your logs.

[pmasley]

Latest Log attached. I have also noticed several files in the same directory as FahCore_78.exe to Fah_Core82.exe. Should they be there or can I delete them.

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--- Opening Log file [April 29 14:32:41] 


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[14:32:41] - Ask before connecting: No
[14:32:41] - User name: pmasley (Team 53449)
[14:32:41] - User ID: 6C3A5FCF23295137
[14:32:41] - Machine ID: 1
[14:32:41] 
[14:32:42] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:32:42] Initialization complete
[14:32:42] + Benchmarking ...
[14:32:44] 
[14:32:44] + Processing work unit
[14:32:44] Core required: FahCore_82.exe
[14:32:44] Core found.
[14:32:44] Working on Unit 03 [April 29 14:32:44]
[14:32:44] + Working ...
[14:32:44] + Working...
[14:32:44] 
[14:32:45] Folding@home Core Shutdown: INTERRUPTED

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--- Opening Log file [April 29 17:15:40] 


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[17:15:40] - Ask before connecting: No
[17:15:40] - User name: pmasley (Team 53449)
[17:15:40] - User ID: 6C3A5FCF23295137
[17:15:40] - Machine ID: 1
[17:15:40] 
[17:15:40] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:15:40] Initialization complete
[17:15:40] + Benchmarking ...
[17:15:46] 
[17:15:46] + Processing work unit
[17:15:46] Core required: FahCore_82.exe
[17:15:46] Core found.
[17:15:46] Working on Unit 03 [April 29 17:15:46]
[17:15:46] + Working ...
[17:15:47] 
[17:15:47] *------------------------------*
[17:15:47] Folding@Home PMD Core
[17:15:47] Version 1.03 (September 7, 2005)
[17:15:47] 
[17:15:47] Preparing to commence simulation
[17:15:47] - Looking at optimizations...
[17:15:47] - Files status OK
[17:15:47] - Expanded 13428 -> 83179 (decompressed 619.4 percent)
[17:15:48] 
[17:15:48] Project: 4519 (Run 21, Clone 9, Gen 3)
[17:15:48] 
[17:15:48] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[17:15:48] Entering M.D.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.


--- Opening Log file [April 30 01:00:53] 


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Launch directory: J:\Folding


[01:00:53] - Ask before connecting: No
[01:00:53] - User name: pmasley (Team 53449)
[01:00:53] - User ID: 6C3A5FCF23295137
[01:00:53] - Machine ID: 1
[01:00:53] 
[01:00:53] Loaded queue successfully.
[01:00:53] Initialization complete
[01:00:53] + Benchmarking ...
[01:00:58] 
[01:00:58] + Processing work unit
[01:00:58] Core required: FahCore_82.exe
[01:00:58] Core found.
[01:00:58] Working on Unit 03 [April 30 01:00:58]
[01:00:58] + Working ...
[01:00:58] 
[01:00:58] *------------------------------*
[01:00:59] Folding@Home PMD Core
[01:00:59] Version 1.03 (September 7, 2005)
[01:00:59] 
[01:00:59] Preparing to commence simulation
[01:00:59] - Looking at optimizations...
[01:00:59] - Files status OK
[01:00:59] - Expanded 13428 -> 83179 (decompressed 619.4 percent)
[01:00:59] 
[01:00:59] Project: 4519 (Run 21, Clone 9, Gen 3)
[01:00:59] 
[01:00:59] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[01:01:04] Entering M.D.
[01:01:59] Opening http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=53449...
[01:04:10] Protein: p4519_2CVR-8-10ns_minout
[01:04:10] 
[01:04:10] Completed 1300000 out of 5000000 steps  (26)
[01:08:05] Writing checkpoint files
[01:15:05] Writing checkpoint files
[01:15:21] Writing local files
[01:15:21] Completed 1350000 out of 5000000 steps  (27)
[01:15:21] Writing checkpoint files
[01:22:21] Writing checkpoint files
[01:24:19] Writing local files
[01:24:19] Completed 1400000 out of 5000000 steps  (28)

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[12:26:33] Completed 4950000 out of 5000000 steps  (99)
[12:26:33] Writing checkpoint files
[12:33:33] Writing checkpoint files
[12:35:32] Writing local files
[12:35:32] Completed 5000000 out of 5000000 steps  (100)
[12:35:32] Writing checkpoint files
[12:36:32] 
[12:36:32] Finished Work Unit:
[12:36:32] Leaving Run
[12:36:33] - Writing 477492 bytes of core data to disk...
[12:36:33]   ... Done.
[12:36:33] - Shutting down core
[12:36:33] 
[12:36:33] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[12:36:35] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[12:36:35] Sending work to server


[12:36:35] + Attempting to send results
[12:36:45] + Results successfully sent
[12:36:45] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[12:36:45] + Number of Units Completed: 33

[12:36:49] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[12:36:49] + Attempting to get work packet
[12:36:49] - Connecting to assignment server
[12:36:50] - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[12:36:50] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[12:36:50] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[12:36:50] - Error: Attempt #1  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[12:36:56] + Attempting to get work packet
[12:36:56] - Connecting to assignment server
[12:36:56] - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[12:36:56] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[12:36:56] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[12:36:56] - Error: Attempt #2  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[12:37:17] + Attempting to get work packet
[12:37:17] - Connecting to assignment server
[12:37:17] - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[12:37:17] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[12:37:17] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[12:37:17] - Error: Attempt #3  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.

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[15:39:49] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:39:49] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:39:50] - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[15:39:54] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[15:39:54] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[15:39:54] - Error: Attempt #13  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[16:28:07] + Attempting to get work packet
[16:28:07] - Connecting to assignment server
[16:28:08] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.70).
[16:28:08] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[16:28:08] Loaded queue successfully.
[16:28:08] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[16:28:08]   (Got status 503)
[16:28:08] + Could not connect to Work Server
[16:28:08] - Error: Attempt #14  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[17:16:19] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:16:19] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:16:19] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.72).
[17:16:19] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:16:20] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:16:23] + Closed connections
[17:16:23] 
[17:16:23] + Processing work unit
[17:16:23] Core required: FahCore_81.exe
[17:16:23] Core found.
[17:16:23] Working on Unit 04 [April 30 17:16:23]
[17:16:23] + Working ...
[17:16:23] 
[17:16:23] *------------------------------*
[17:16:23] Folding@Home Gromacs Simulated Tempering Core
[17:16:23] Version 1.10 (Oct 4, 2007)
[17:16:23] 
[17:16:23] Preparing to commence simulation
[17:16:23] - Looking at optimizations...
[17:16:23] - Created dyn
[17:16:23] - Files status OK
[17:16:23] - Expanded 239327 -> 1169211 (decompressed 488.5 percent)
[17:16:23] - Starting from initial work packet
[17:16:23] 
[17:16:23] Project: 4400 (Run 53, Clone 13, Gen 68)
[17:16:23] 
[17:16:23] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[17:16:23] Entering M.D.
[17:16:30] Protein: p4400_Seq42_Amber03_Native
[17:16:30] 
[17:16:30] Writing local files
[17:18:40] Extra SSE boost OK.
[17:18:40] Writing local files
[17:18:40] Completed 0 out of 150000 steps  (0)
[17:21:02] Writing local files
[17:21:02] Completed 1500 out of 150000 steps  (1)
[17:23:23] Writing local files
[17:23:23] Completed 3000 out of 150000 steps  (2)

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[19:55:13] Completed 99000 out of 150000 steps  (66)
[19:56:18] Opening http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=53449...
[19:57:54] Writing local files
[19:57:54] Completed 100500 out of 150000 steps  (67)

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[21:15:15] Completed 148500 out of 150000 steps  (99)
[21:17:40] Writing local files
[21:17:40] Completed 150000 out of 150000 steps  (100)
[21:17:40] Writing final coordinates.
[21:17:40] Past main M.D. loop
[21:18:40] 
[21:18:40] Finished Work Unit:
[21:18:40] - Reading up to 378720 from "work/wudata_04.arc": Read 378720
[21:18:40] - Reading up to 161912 from "work/wudata_04.xtc": Read 161912
[21:18:40] goefile size: 0
[21:18:40] logfile size: 15798
[21:18:40] Leaving Run
[21:18:41] - Writing 1197140 bytes of core data to disk...
[21:18:41] Done: 1196628 -> 587332 (compressed to 49.0 percent)
[21:18:41]   ... Done.
[21:18:41] - Shutting down core
[21:18:41] 
[21:18:41] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[21:18:44] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[21:18:44] Sending work to server


[21:18:44] + Attempting to send results
[21:18:46] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[21:18:46] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[21:18:46]     (171.64.122.72:8080)
[21:18:46] - Error: Could not transmit unit 04 (completed April 30) to work server.
[21:18:46]   Keeping unit 04 in queue.


[21:18:46] + Attempting to send results
[21:18:47] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[21:18:47] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[21:18:47]     (171.64.122.72:8080)
[21:18:47] - Error: Could not transmit unit 04 (completed April 30) to work server.


[21:18:47] + Attempting to send results
[21:18:48] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[21:18:48] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[21:18:48]     (171.64.122.76:8080)
[21:18:48]   Could not transmit unit 04 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[21:18:48] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[21:18:48] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:18:48] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:18:49] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.136).
[21:18:49] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:18:49] Loaded queue successfully.


[21:18:52] + Attempting to send results
[21:18:53] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[21:18:53] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[21:18:53]     (171.64.122.72:8080)
[21:18:53] - Error: Could not transmit unit 04 (completed April 30) to work server.


[21:18:53] + Attempting to send results
[21:18:54] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[21:18:54] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[21:18:54]     (171.64.122.76:8080)
[21:18:54]   Could not transmit unit 04 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[21:18:54] + Closed connections
[21:18:54] 
[21:18:54] + Processing work unit
[21:18:54] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[21:18:54] Core found.
[21:18:54] Working on Unit 05 [April 30 21:18:54]
[21:18:54] + Working ...
[21:18:55] 
[21:18:55] *------------------------------*
[21:18:55] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[21:18:55] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)
[21:18:55] 
[21:18:55] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:18:55] - Looking at optimizations...
[21:18:55] - Created dyn
[21:18:55] - Files status OK
[21:18:55] - Expanded 240465 -> 1193713 (decompressed 496.4 percent)
[21:18:55] - Starting from initial work packet
[21:18:55] 
[21:18:55] Project: 2526 (Run 48, Clone 3, Gen 72)
[21:18:55] 
[21:18:55] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[21:18:55] Entering M.D.
[21:19:02] Protein: p2526_Am22-43
[21:19:02] 
[21:19:02] Writing local files
[21:19:02] Extra SSE boost OK.
[21:19:02] Writing local files
[21:19:02] Completed 0 out of 2000000 steps  (0)
[21:51:19] Writing local files
[21:51:19] Completed 20000 out of 2000000 steps  (1)
[22:23:34] Writing local files
[22:23:34] Completed 40000 out of 2000000 steps  (2)


[00:32:28] Completed 120000 out of 2000000 steps  (6)


[01:00:58] + Attempting to send results
[01:01:11] + Results successfully sent
[01:01:11] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[01:01:11] + Number of Units Completed: 34

[01:01:11] + Working...
[01:04:40] Writing local files
[01:04:40] Completed 140000 out of 2000000 steps  (7)

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[11:23:28] Completed 520000 out of 2000000 steps  (26)
[11:55:48] Writing local files
[11:55:48] Completed 540000 out of 2000000 steps  (27)


--- Opening Log file [May 1 12:07:08] 


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Launch directory: J:\Folding


[12:07:08] - Ask before connecting: No
[12:07:08] - User name: pmasley (Team 53449)
[12:07:08] - User ID: 6C3A5FCF23295137
[12:07:08] - Machine ID: 1
[12:07:08] 
[12:07:08] Loaded queue successfully.
[12:07:08] Initialization complete
[12:07:08] + Benchmarking ...
[12:07:11] 
[12:07:11] + Processing work unit
[12:07:11] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[12:07:11] Core found.
[12:07:11] Working on Unit 05 [May 1 12:07:11]
[12:07:11] + Working ...
[12:07:11] 
[12:07:11] *------------------------------*
[12:07:11] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[12:07:11] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)
[12:07:11] 
[12:07:11] Preparing to commence simulation
[12:07:11] - Looking at optimizations...
[12:07:11] - Files status OK
[12:07:12] - Expanded 240465 -> 1193713 (decompressed 496.4 percent)
[12:07:12] 
[12:07:12] Project: 2526 (Run 48, Clone 3, Gen 72)
[12:07:12] 
[12:07:12] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[12:07:12] Entering M.D.
[12:07:33] (Starting from checkpoint)
[12:07:33] Protein: p2526_Am22-43
[12:07:33] 
[12:07:33] Writing local files
[12:07:33] Completed 543728 out of 2000000 steps  (27)
[12:07:33] Extra SSE boost OK.
[12:35:52] Writing local files
[12:35:52] Completed 560000 out of 2000000 steps  (28)
[13:07:59] Writing local files
[13:07:59] Completed 580000 out of 2000000 steps  (29)
[13:28:32] Opening http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=53449...

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[21:20:09] Completed 880000 out of 2000000 steps  (44)

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.


--- Opening Log file [May 1 22:01:06] 


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[22:01:06] - Ask before connecting: No
[22:01:06] - User name: pmasley (Team 53449)
[22:01:06] - User ID: 6C3A5FCF23295137
[22:01:06] - Machine ID: 1
[22:01:06] 
[22:01:06] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:01:06] Initialization complete
[22:01:06] + Benchmarking ...
[22:01:10] 
[22:01:10] + Processing work unit
[22:01:10] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[22:01:10] Core found.
[22:01:10] Working on Unit 05 [May 1 22:01:10]
[22:01:10] + Working ...
[22:01:16] 
[22:01:16] *------------------------------*
[22:01:16] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[22:01:16] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)
[22:01:16] 
[22:01:16] Preparing to commence simulation
[22:01:16] - Looking at optimizations...
[22:01:16] - Files status OK
[22:01:17] - Expanded 240465 -> 1193713 (decompressed 496.4 percent)
[22:01:17] 
[22:01:17] Project: 2526 (Run 48, Clone 3, Gen 72)
[22:01:17] 
[22:01:18] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[22:01:18] Entering M.D.
[22:02:19] (Starting from checkpoint)
[22:02:19] Protein: p2526_Am22-43
[22:02:19] 
[22:02:19] Writing local files
[22:02:41] Completed 892780 out of 2000000 steps  (45)
[22:02:41] Extra SSE boost OK.
[22:15:36] Writing local files
[22:15:36] Completed 900000 out of 2000000 steps  (45)

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[00:31:59] Completed 980000 out of 2000000 steps  (49)

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.


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[00:52:35] - Ask before connecting: No
[00:52:35] - User name: pmasley (Team 53449)
[00:52:35] - User ID: 6C3A5FCF23295137
[00:52:35] - Machine ID: 1
[00:52:35] 
[00:52:35] Loaded queue successfully.
[00:52:36] Initialization complete
[00:52:36] + Benchmarking ...
[00:52:38] 
[00:52:38] + Processing work unit
[00:52:38] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[00:52:38] Core found.
[00:52:38] Working on Unit 05 [May 2 00:52:38]
[00:52:38] + Working ...
[00:52:41] 
[00:52:41] *------------------------------*
[00:52:41] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[00:52:41] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)
[00:52:41] 
[00:52:41] Preparing to commence simulation
[00:52:41] - Looking at optimizations...
[00:52:41] - Files status OK
[00:52:42] - Expanded 240465 -> 1193713 (decompressed 496.4 percent)
[00:52:42] 
[00:52:42] Project: 2526 (Run 48, Clone 3, Gen 72)
[00:52:42] 
[00:52:43] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[00:52:43] Entering M.D.
[00:53:04] (Starting from checkpoint)
[00:53:04] Protein: p2526_Am22-43
[00:53:04] 
[00:53:04] Writing local files
[00:53:04] Completed 987425 out of 2000000 steps  (49)
[00:53:04] Extra SSE boost OK.
[01:17:48] Writing local files
[01:17:48] Completed 1000000 out of 2000000 steps  (50)

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[10:08:54] Completed 1320000 out of 2000000 steps  (66)
[10:13:17] Printing Queue Information
CURRENT QUEUE: 
00  EMPTY    
01  EMPTY    
02  EMPTY    
03  EMPTY    
04  EMPTY    
05 *ACTIVE    "Folding@Home" (78) 171.64.122.136:8080  April 30 21:18 | June 22 21:18
06  EMPTY    
07  EMPTY    
08  EMPTY    
09  EMPTY    
[10:13:30] Opening J:\Folding\MyFolding.html...
[10:17:07] Opening http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=53449...
[10:43:07] Writing local files
[10:43:07] Completed 1340000 out of 2000000 steps  (67)

Snipped and added code tags to shorten the post for easier reading. -7im

[alancabler]

Hello pmasley,
Welcome to the folding forum.

The 2 completed Work Units shown in your log were worth 85.5 points total. There are a large number of "low-point" WUs available right now, but it's all relative... Work Units that take twice as long to process earn twice as many points, more or less.
You can see what each WU is worth here.
The points FAQ has a great explanation of how points are awarded.

Good to have you folding with us!

[pmasley]

Thanks for the reply Alan.

I was wondering what was happening. All of a sudden I started getting small files with all kinds of upload errors and errors stating that it needed to close the program.

Any idea what the other files that I listed are?

Paul

[pmasley]

Ugh, please edit your post and wrap the lines with your log info using the CODE flags like so:

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Log rolls down stairs
Alone or in pairs
Rolls over your neighbors dog
What's great for a snack
& fits on your back?
It's Log Log Log

It's Log, it's Log
It's big, it's heavy, it's wood

It's Log, it's Log
It's better than bad, it's good

Everyone want's a Log
You're gonna love it Log
Come on & get your Log
Everyone needs a Log

LOG, LOG, LOG... FROM BLAMMO!

I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about. What does a dog and a snack have to do with what I was ask for?

[Tobit]

I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about. What does a dog and a snack have to do with what I was ask for?

Nevermind. It was a mere attempt to add humor into the example I was giving you. It's common courtesy to wrap you log files around

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 tags so it doesn't flood the page.  This was what I was asking you to do, and because we were talking about log files, it seemed fitting to sing the log song in my example of what I was asking you to do.  "I guess you had to be there"

[pmasley]

I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about. What does a dog and a snack have to do with what I was ask for?

Nevermind. It was a mere attempt to add humor into the example I was giving you. It's common courtesy to wrap you log files around

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 tags so it doesn't flood the page.  This was what I was asking you to do, and because we were talking about log files, it seemed fitting to sing the log song in my example of what I was asking you to do.  "I guess you had to be there"[/quote]

Tobit, you just completely lost me.  Tell this old man how to wrap the file to make it smaller for the next time I need help. :D

[uncle_fungus]

I've just done some "touch-up" work on your post to fix the log.


Me too. -7im

[pmasley]

I've just done some "touch-up" work on your post to fix the log.

How did you do that?

[7im]

formatting tags...

[code]
your log here
[/code]

[uncle_fungus]

I was editing your post at the same time you were. I saved it last (or rather 7im did), and that was the save that stuck.

To make the text go into a code box, all you need to do is this:

[code]put your log here[/code]

Edit: We really should stop doing this 7im


Okay. -7

[pmasley]

Thanks guys, I will see if I can remember that!

[bruce]

I have also noticed several files in the same directory as FahCore_78.exe to Fah_Core82.exe. Should they be there or can I delete them.

You can, but it's not recommended.

Different projects use different types of analysis software to calculate the folding. The FAH software that you installed doesn't really know how to do those analyses, and each of those FahCore_xx.exe are pieces of software that are extensions to the part that you downloaded.

Look at the "Project Summary" that lists the projects and points. Column 9 is called "Code" and every time you get something that uses a different code, your client will check to see if you've previously downloaded that code and if it's not on disk, it will download it. If you delete the ones that are not currently being used, they'll just be downloaded again next time you get an assignment that needs it.

[pmasley]

Sorry for the delay at getting back to you. I will leave the files alone......