Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
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Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
Hey all. Trying to get back in to folding and noticed there's been some updates since my last f@h attempt. I want to get back to folding on both my Sapphire 5830 and my AMD Phenom II x4 965BE. My CPU isn't overclocked currently but my 5830 is overclocked from 800/1000 to 875/1200.
I have installed F@H GPU3 6.31, F@H SMP2 6.34, and HFM.NET v0.6.2.336. I ran no flags for GPU3 since they're apparently no longer needed for my card and input the -smp flag during the SMP2 client setup. My GPU3 client's PPD dropped around 1000 once I got the SMP2 client going and after about 15 minutes it dropped another 1000.
Current stats...
Current GPU3 - 1164.9
Current SMP2 - 4517.1
Current GPU Temp - 56f
Current CPU Temp - 46f
Are there any other settings I should change to maybe regain my GPU3 client's PPD, or would I benefit more from just running one client, or is my current setup optimal the way it is? I remember running WinAFC when I last folded but read somewhere that with the new clients this is no longer necessary, is that true?
My system specs...
CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition(c3)
MB - Asus Crosshair IV Formula
GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD5830 1GB GDDR5 @ 875MHz/1200MHz
PSU - Corsair TX-850w
HDD1 - Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 6.0GB/s
HDD2 - Western Digital Black 640GB SATA 6.0GB/s
Case - CoolerMaster Storm Scout(modified)
Air - CoolerMaster R4 Blue-LED 120mm x 6
Water - Corsair Hydro Series H50(Push/shroud/rad/pull)
OS - Windows 7 Ultimate x64
I have installed F@H GPU3 6.31, F@H SMP2 6.34, and HFM.NET v0.6.2.336. I ran no flags for GPU3 since they're apparently no longer needed for my card and input the -smp flag during the SMP2 client setup. My GPU3 client's PPD dropped around 1000 once I got the SMP2 client going and after about 15 minutes it dropped another 1000.
Current stats...
Current GPU3 - 1164.9
Current SMP2 - 4517.1
Current GPU Temp - 56f
Current CPU Temp - 46f
Are there any other settings I should change to maybe regain my GPU3 client's PPD, or would I benefit more from just running one client, or is my current setup optimal the way it is? I remember running WinAFC when I last folded but read somewhere that with the new clients this is no longer necessary, is that true?
My system specs...
CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition(c3)
MB - Asus Crosshair IV Formula
GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD5830 1GB GDDR5 @ 875MHz/1200MHz
PSU - Corsair TX-850w
HDD1 - Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 6.0GB/s
HDD2 - Western Digital Black 640GB SATA 6.0GB/s
Case - CoolerMaster Storm Scout(modified)
Air - CoolerMaster R4 Blue-LED 120mm x 6
Water - Corsair Hydro Series H50(Push/shroud/rad/pull)
OS - Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
Sometime throughout the night something happened to the SMP2 client. It's now showing a yellow status in HFM.NET and it looks to be stopping at 80% but no errors and CPU usage doesn't drop back down. If I reload it it starts back at 79%.
I tried reloading both clients which didn't seem to work. I then set affinity via task manager to cores 0/1/2 on the SMP2 client core and core 3 on the GPUI3 client core which gave me back my 3300+ PPD on the GPU3 client.
What's wrong with my SMP2 client? My total WUs only went up one WU overnight because the SMP2 client apparently got stuck on this current WU and the GPU3 didn't appear finish any because it was running under 1000 PPD before the affinity change.
I tried reloading both clients which didn't seem to work. I then set affinity via task manager to cores 0/1/2 on the SMP2 client core and core 3 on the GPUI3 client core which gave me back my 3300+ PPD on the GPU3 client.
What's wrong with my SMP2 client? My total WUs only went up one WU overnight because the SMP2 client apparently got stuck on this current WU and the GPU3 didn't appear finish any because it was running under 1000 PPD before the affinity change.
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
Posting the log files might help, especially the SMP ones. Make sure to put the logs in code tags so you don't end up with a wall of text for a post.
What's likely happening is that the SMP and GPU clients are fighting for CPU time and are both suffering as a result. AMD GPUs require about 1 CPU core's worth of time to keep them properly fed. With the SMP client also trying to grab CPU cycles, the GPU is being partially starved for work. The SMP client is likely being held back since it only progresses as fast as the slowest thread. If you change the flag there to -smp 3 that should eliminate the contention.
As an aside, with your GPU I'd suggest trying out the v7 beta client; an OpenCL AMD core was released a little under a year ago that performs much better on supported cards (5000 series and newer). It's an all-in-one client designed to be easier to manage; see the FAHControl documentation for instructions on how to change things using the new and improved GUI. At one point you had to set the GPU slot to client-type: advanced get the new projects, but I believe some of them have been released to full FAH and thus it may no longer be necessary.
What's likely happening is that the SMP and GPU clients are fighting for CPU time and are both suffering as a result. AMD GPUs require about 1 CPU core's worth of time to keep them properly fed. With the SMP client also trying to grab CPU cycles, the GPU is being partially starved for work. The SMP client is likely being held back since it only progresses as fast as the slowest thread. If you change the flag there to -smp 3 that should eliminate the contention.
As an aside, with your GPU I'd suggest trying out the v7 beta client; an OpenCL AMD core was released a little under a year ago that performs much better on supported cards (5000 series and newer). It's an all-in-one client designed to be easier to manage; see the FAHControl documentation for instructions on how to change things using the new and improved GUI. At one point you had to set the GPU slot to client-type: advanced get the new projects, but I believe some of them have been released to full FAH and thus it may no longer be necessary.
Last edited by Zagen30 on Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
Wasnt' aware there was a new amd client out, I'll give that a try. I'll also run the SMP2 config again and change the flag from -smp to -smp 3. Should I leave affinity in task manager as default or change it to 3 cores / 1 core for SMP / GPU?
Here's the SMP2 log file starting at the last WU that hit 100%...
Thoes shutdowns were me closing the client and reloading it or re-running the config in an attempt to fix whatever went wrong. I'll install the new amd client and reconfigure the SMP2 client and see what happens. For the SMP client I'm pretty much using the default settings in the setup guide.
Here's the SMP2 log file starting at the last WU that hit 100%...
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[13:31:52] Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps (100%)
[13:31:53] DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
[13:32:03]
[13:32:03] Finished Work Unit:
[13:32:03] - Reading up to 895524 from "work/wudata_01.trr": Read 895524
[13:32:03] trr file hash check passed.
[13:32:03] - Reading up to 531744 from "work/wudata_01.xtc": Read 531744
[13:32:03] xtc file hash check passed.
[13:32:03] edr file hash check passed.
[13:32:03] logfile size: 21697
[13:32:03] Leaving Run
[13:32:06] - Writing 1454369 bytes of core data to disk...
[13:32:06] Done: 1453857 -> 1386372 (compressed to 95.3 percent)
[13:32:06] ... Done.
[13:32:07] - Shutting down core
[13:32:07]
[13:32:07] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[13:32:10] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[13:32:10] Sending work to server
[13:32:10] Project: 8011 (Run 2, Clone 482, Gen 44)
[13:32:10] + Attempting to send results [February 10 13:32:10 UTC]
[13:32:26] + Results successfully sent
[13:32:26] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[13:32:26] + Starting local stats count at 1
[13:32:30] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:32:30] Cleaning up work directory
[13:32:30] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:32:30] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:32:31] - Successful: assigned to (129.64.95.82).
[13:32:31] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:32:31] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:32:33] + Closed connections
[13:32:33]
[13:32:33] + Processing work unit
[13:32:33] A4 will attempt to use 4 threads.
[13:32:33] Core required: FahCore_a4.exe
[13:32:33] Core found.
[13:32:33] Working on queue slot 02 [February 10 13:32:33 UTC]
[13:32:33] + Working ...
[13:32:33]
[13:32:33] *------------------------------*
[13:32:33] Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
[13:32:33] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[13:32:33]
[13:32:33] Preparing to commence simulation
[13:32:33] - Looking at optimizations...
[13:32:33] - Created dyn
[13:32:33] - Files status OK
[13:32:33] - Expanded 663882 -> 1297016 (decompressed 195.3 percent)
[13:32:33] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=663882 data_size=1297016, decompressed_data_size=1297016 diff=0
[13:32:33] - Digital signature verified
[13:32:33]
[13:32:33] Project: 7200 (Run 31, Clone 0, Gen 122)
[13:32:33]
[13:32:33] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[13:32:33] Entering M.D.
[13:32:39] Mapping NT from 4 to 4
[13:32:39] Completed 0 out of 750000 steps (0%)
[13:38:09] Completed 7500 out of 750000 steps (1%)
[13:43:36] Completed 15000 out of 750000 steps (2%)
[13:49:02] Completed 22500 out of 750000 steps (3%)
[13:54:30] Completed 30000 out of 750000 steps (4%)
[13:59:56] Completed 37500 out of 750000 steps (5%)
[14:05:24] Completed 45000 out of 750000 steps (6%)
[14:10:49] Completed 52500 out of 750000 steps (7%)
[14:16:17] Completed 60000 out of 750000 steps (8%)
[14:21:44] Completed 67500 out of 750000 steps (9%)
[14:27:12] Completed 75000 out of 750000 steps (10%)
[14:32:39] Completed 82500 out of 750000 steps (11%)
[14:38:05] Completed 90000 out of 750000 steps (12%)
[14:43:33] Completed 97500 out of 750000 steps (13%)
[14:49:02] Completed 105000 out of 750000 steps (14%)
[14:54:29] Completed 112500 out of 750000 steps (15%)
[14:59:56] Completed 120000 out of 750000 steps (16%)
[15:05:24] Completed 127500 out of 750000 steps (17%)
[15:10:51] Completed 135000 out of 750000 steps (18%)
[15:16:20] Completed 142500 out of 750000 steps (19%)
[15:21:45] Completed 150000 out of 750000 steps (20%)
[15:27:13] Completed 157500 out of 750000 steps (21%)
[15:32:42] Completed 165000 out of 750000 steps (22%)
[15:38:09] Completed 172500 out of 750000 steps (23%)
[15:43:37] Completed 180000 out of 750000 steps (24%)
[15:49:04] Completed 187500 out of 750000 steps (25%)
[15:54:32] Completed 195000 out of 750000 steps (26%)
[15:59:59] Completed 202500 out of 750000 steps (27%)
[16:05:26] Completed 210000 out of 750000 steps (28%)
[16:10:51] Completed 217500 out of 750000 steps (29%)
[16:16:19] Completed 225000 out of 750000 steps (30%)
[16:21:44] Completed 232500 out of 750000 steps (31%)
[16:27:11] Completed 240000 out of 750000 steps (32%)
[16:32:35] Completed 247500 out of 750000 steps (33%)
[16:38:02] Completed 255000 out of 750000 steps (34%)
[16:43:29] Completed 262500 out of 750000 steps (35%)
[16:48:57] Completed 270000 out of 750000 steps (36%)
[16:54:23] Completed 277500 out of 750000 steps (37%)
[16:59:47] Completed 285000 out of 750000 steps (38%)
[17:05:16] Completed 292500 out of 750000 steps (39%)
[17:10:41] Completed 300000 out of 750000 steps (40%)
[17:16:07] Completed 307500 out of 750000 steps (41%)
[17:21:33] Completed 315000 out of 750000 steps (42%)
[17:26:59] Completed 322500 out of 750000 steps (43%)
[17:32:25] Completed 330000 out of 750000 steps (44%)
[17:37:52] Completed 337500 out of 750000 steps (45%)
[17:43:20] Completed 345000 out of 750000 steps (46%)
[17:48:47] Completed 352500 out of 750000 steps (47%)
[17:54:14] Completed 360000 out of 750000 steps (48%)
[17:59:39] Completed 367500 out of 750000 steps (49%)
[18:05:07] Completed 375000 out of 750000 steps (50%)
[18:10:32] Completed 382500 out of 750000 steps (51%)
[18:16:00] Completed 390000 out of 750000 steps (52%)
[18:21:26] Completed 397500 out of 750000 steps (53%)
[18:26:54] Completed 405000 out of 750000 steps (54%)
[18:32:21] Completed 412500 out of 750000 steps (55%)
[18:37:48] Completed 420000 out of 750000 steps (56%)
[18:43:15] Completed 427500 out of 750000 steps (57%)
[18:48:41] Completed 435000 out of 750000 steps (58%)
[18:54:09] Completed 442500 out of 750000 steps (59%)
[18:59:35] Completed 450000 out of 750000 steps (60%)
[19:05:02] Completed 457500 out of 750000 steps (61%)
[19:10:29] Completed 465000 out of 750000 steps (62%)
[19:15:57] Completed 472500 out of 750000 steps (63%)
[19:21:24] Completed 480000 out of 750000 steps (64%)
[19:26:52] Completed 487500 out of 750000 steps (65%)
[19:32:53] Completed 495000 out of 750000 steps (66%)
[19:38:27] Completed 502500 out of 750000 steps (67%)
[19:44:02] Completed 510000 out of 750000 steps (68%)
[19:49:31] Completed 517500 out of 750000 steps (69%)
[19:54:58] Completed 525000 out of 750000 steps (70%)
[20:00:23] Completed 532500 out of 750000 steps (71%)
[20:05:51] Completed 540000 out of 750000 steps (72%)
[20:11:17] Completed 547500 out of 750000 steps (73%)
[20:16:47] Completed 555000 out of 750000 steps (74%)
[20:22:13] Completed 562500 out of 750000 steps (75%)
[20:27:40] Completed 570000 out of 750000 steps (76%)
[20:33:06] Completed 577500 out of 750000 steps (77%)
[20:38:34] Completed 585000 out of 750000 steps (78%)
[20:44:02] Completed 592500 out of 750000 steps (79%)
[20:49:29] Completed 600000 out of 750000 steps (80%)
[20:54:58] Completed 607500 out of 750000 steps (81%)
Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
--- Opening Log file [February 10 21:01:40 UTC]
# Windows SMP Console Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.34
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu
Executable: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu\FAH6.34-win32-SMP.exe
Arguments: -smp
[21:01:40] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:01:40] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:01:40] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:01:40] - Machine ID: 1
[21:01:40]
[21:01:40] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:01:40]
[21:01:40] + Processing work unit
[21:01:40] A4 will attempt to use 4 threads.
[21:01:40] Core required: FahCore_a4.exe
[21:01:40] Core found.
[21:01:40] Working on queue slot 02 [February 10 21:01:40 UTC]
[21:01:40] + Working ...
[21:01:40]
[21:01:40] *------------------------------*
[21:01:40] Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
[21:01:40] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[21:01:40]
[21:01:40] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:01:40] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[21:01:50] - Looking at optimizations...
[21:01:50] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[21:01:50] - Previous termination of core was improper.
[21:01:50] - Files status OK
[21:01:50] - Expanded 663882 -> 1297016 (decompressed 195.3 percent)
[21:01:50] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=663882 data_size=1297016, decompressed_data_size=1297016 diff=0
[21:01:50] - Digital signature verified
[21:01:50]
[21:01:50] Project: 7200 (Run 31, Clone 0, Gen 122)
[21:01:50]
[21:01:50] Entering M.D.
[21:01:56] Using Gromacs checkpoints
[21:01:56] Mapping NT from 4 to 4
[21:01:56] Resuming from checkpoint
[21:01:56] Verified work/wudata_02.log
[21:01:56] Verified work/wudata_02.trr
[21:01:56] Verified work/wudata_02.xtc
[21:01:56] Verified work/wudata_02.edr
[21:01:56] Completed 597502 out of 750000 steps (79%)
[21:04:01] Completed 600000 out of 750000 steps (80%)
Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
--- Opening Log file [February 10 21:06:21 UTC]
# Windows SMP Console Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.34
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu
Executable: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu\FAH6.34-win32-SMP.exe
Arguments: -config -smp
[21:06:21] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:06:21] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:06:21] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:06:21] - Machine ID: 1
[21:06:21]
[21:06:21] Configuring Folding@Home...
[21:09:00] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:09:00] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:09:00] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:09:00] - Machine ID: 1
[21:09:00]
[21:09:00] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:09:00]
[21:09:00] + Processing work unit
[21:09:00] A4 will attempt to use 4 threads.
[21:09:00] Core required: FahCore_a4.exe
[21:09:00] Core found.
[21:09:00] Working on queue slot 02 [February 10 21:09:00 UTC]
[21:09:00] + Working ...
[21:09:00]
[21:09:00] *------------------------------*
[21:09:00] Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
[21:09:00] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[21:09:00]
[21:09:00] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:09:00] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[21:09:10] - Looking at optimizations...
[21:09:10] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[21:09:10] - Previous termination of core was improper.
[21:09:10] - Going to use standard loops.
[21:09:10] - Files status OK
[21:09:10] - Expanded 663882 -> 1297016 (decompressed 195.3 percent)
[21:09:10] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=663882 data_size=1297016, decompressed_data_size=1297016 diff=0
[21:09:10] - Digital signature verified
[21:09:10]
[21:09:10] Project: 7200 (Run 31, Clone 0, Gen 122)
[21:09:10]
[21:09:10] Entering M.D.
[21:09:16] Using Gromacs checkpoints
[21:09:16] Mapping NT from 4 to 4
[21:09:16] Resuming from checkpoint
[21:09:16] Verified work/wudata_02.log
[21:09:16] Verified work/wudata_02.trr
[21:09:16] Verified work/wudata_02.xtc
[21:09:16] Verified work/wudata_02.edr
[21:09:16] Completed 597502 out of 750000 steps (79%)
Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
--- Opening Log file [February 10 21:09:38 UTC]
# Windows CPU Console Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.34
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu
Executable: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu\FAH6.34-win32-SMP.exe
Arguments: -config
[21:09:38] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:09:38] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:09:38] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:09:38] - Machine ID: 1
[21:09:38]
[21:09:38] Configuring Folding@Home...
[21:10:03] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:10:03] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:10:03] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:10:03] - Machine ID: 1
[21:10:03]
[21:10:03] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:10:03]
[21:10:03] + Processing work unit
[21:10:03] Core required: FahCore_a4.exe
[21:10:03] Core found.
[21:10:03] Working on queue slot 02 [February 10 21:10:03 UTC]
[21:10:03] + Working ...
[21:10:03]
[21:10:03] *------------------------------*
[21:10:03] Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
[21:10:03] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[21:10:03]
[21:10:03] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:10:03] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
--- Opening Log file [February 10 21:10:10 UTC]
# Windows CPU Console Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.34
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu
Executable: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu\FAH6.34-win32-SMP.exe
Arguments: -config
[21:10:10] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:10:10] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:10:10] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:10:10] - Machine ID: 1
[21:10:10]
[21:10:10] Configuring Folding@Home...
[21:10:31] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:10:31] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:10:31] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:10:31] - Machine ID: 1
[21:10:31]
[21:10:31] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:10:31]
[21:10:31] + Processing work unit
[21:10:31] A4 will attempt to use 0 threads.
[21:10:31] Core required: FahCore_a4.exe
[21:10:31] Core found.
[21:10:31] Working on queue slot 02 [February 10 21:10:31 UTC]
[21:10:31] + Working ...
[21:10:31]
[21:10:31] *------------------------------*
[21:10:31] Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
[21:10:31] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[21:10:31]
[21:10:31] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:10:31] - Looking at optimizations...
[21:10:31] - Files status OK
[21:10:31] - Expanded 663882 -> 1297016 (decompressed 195.3 percent)
[21:10:31] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=663882 data_size=1297016, decompressed_data_size=1297016 diff=0
[21:10:31] - Digital signature verified
[21:10:31]
[21:10:31] Project: 7200 (Run 31, Clone 0, Gen 122)
[21:10:31]
[21:10:31] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[21:10:31] Entering M.D.
[21:10:37] Using Gromacs checkpoints
[21:10:37] Mapping NT from 1 to 1
[21:10:37] Resuming from checkpoint
[21:10:37] Verified work/wudata_02.log
[21:10:37] Verified work/wudata_02.trr
[21:10:37] Verified work/wudata_02.xtc
[21:10:37] Verified work/wudata_02.edr
[21:10:37] Completed 597502 out of 750000 steps (79%)
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
--- Opening Log file [February 10 21:13:15 UTC]
# Windows SMP Console Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.34
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu
Executable: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu\FAH6.34-win32-SMP.exe
Arguments: -config -smp
[21:13:15] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:13:15] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:13:15] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:13:15] - Machine ID: 1
[21:13:15]
[21:13:15] Configuring Folding@Home...
--- Opening Log file [February 10 21:13:50 UTC]
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.34
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu
Executable: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu\FAH6.34-win32-SMP.exe
Arguments: -config -smp
[21:13:50] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:13:50] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:13:50] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:13:50] - Machine ID: 1
[21:13:50]
[21:13:50] Configuring Folding@Home...
--- Opening Log file [February 10 21:14:49 UTC]
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.34
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu
Executable: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu\FAH6.34-win32-SMP.exe
Arguments: -config -smp
[21:14:49] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:14:49] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:14:49] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:14:49] - Machine ID: 1
[21:14:49]
[21:14:49] Configuring Folding@Home...
[21:15:32] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:15:32] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:15:32] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:15:32] - Machine ID: 1
[21:15:32]
[21:15:33] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:15:33]
[21:15:33] + Processing work unit
[21:15:33] A4 will attempt to use 4 threads.
[21:15:33] Core required: FahCore_a4.exe
[21:15:33] Core found.
[21:15:33] Working on queue slot 02 [February 10 21:15:33 UTC]
[21:15:33] + Working ...
[21:15:33]
[21:15:33] *------------------------------*
[21:15:33] Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
[21:15:33] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[21:15:33]
[21:15:33] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:15:33] - Looking at optimizations...
[21:15:33] - Files status OK
[21:15:33] - Expanded 663882 -> 1297016 (decompressed 195.3 percent)
[21:15:33] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=663882 data_size=1297016, decompressed_data_size=1297016 diff=0
[21:15:33] - Digital signature verified
[21:15:33]
[21:15:33] Project: 7200 (Run 31, Clone 0, Gen 122)
[21:15:33]
[21:15:33] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[21:15:33] Entering M.D.
[21:15:39] Using Gromacs checkpoints
[21:15:39] Mapping NT from 4 to 4
[21:15:39] Resuming from checkpoint
[21:15:39] Verified work/wudata_02.log
[21:15:39] Verified work/wudata_02.trr
[21:15:39] Verified work/wudata_02.xtc
[21:15:39] Verified work/wudata_02.edr
[21:15:39] Completed 598202 out of 750000 steps (79%)
[21:17:59] Completed 600000 out of 750000 steps (80%)
Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
--- Opening Log file [February 10 21:25:52 UTC]
# Windows SMP Console Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.34
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu
Executable: C:\Users\Johnny\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-cpu\FAH6.34-win32-SMP.exe
Arguments: -smp
[21:25:52] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:25:52] - User name: johnny_dot_exe (Team 40965)
[21:25:52] - User ID: 3D3452214E7589A7
[21:25:52] - Machine ID: 1
[21:25:52]
[21:25:52] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:25:52]
[21:25:52] + Processing work unit
[21:25:52] A4 will attempt to use 4 threads.
[21:25:52] Core required: FahCore_a4.exe
[21:25:52] Core found.
[21:25:52] Working on queue slot 02 [February 10 21:25:52 UTC]
[21:25:52] + Working ...
[21:25:52]
[21:25:52] *------------------------------*
[21:25:52] Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
[21:25:52] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[21:25:52]
[21:25:52] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:25:52] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[21:26:02] - Looking at optimizations...
[21:26:02] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[21:26:02] - Previous termination of core was improper.
[21:26:02] - Files status OK
[21:26:02] - Expanded 663882 -> 1297016 (decompressed 195.3 percent)
[21:26:02] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=663882 data_size=1297016, decompressed_data_size=1297016 diff=0
[21:26:02] - Digital signature verified
[21:26:02]
[21:26:02] Project: 7200 (Run 31, Clone 0, Gen 122)
[21:26:02]
[21:26:02] Entering M.D.
[21:26:08] Using Gromacs checkpoints
[21:26:08] Mapping NT from 4 to 4
[21:26:08] Resuming from checkpoint
[21:26:08] Verified work/wudata_02.log
[21:26:08] Verified work/wudata_02.trr
[21:26:08] Verified work/wudata_02.xtc
[21:26:08] Verified work/wudata_02.edr
[21:26:08] Completed 598202 out of 750000 steps (79%)
[21:27:59] Completed 600000 out of 750000 steps (80%)
Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
I got the F@H v7 client installed and running. I can't seem to figure out how to get it to show up in HFM.NET and I've tried the */roaming/* and */program files (x86)/* directories, is this something I'm just gonna have to deal with?
I also changed the flag in the SMP2 client from -smp to smp 3. Without the F@H v7 client running my total CPU usage is around 75-80% and cores 1/3 are near maxed with cores 0/2 hovering between 50-75%. With the F@H v7 client running my total CPU usage is 100%. I'm also still seeing a yellow status and no PPD for my SMP2 client in HFM.NET but it is currently at 81% according to the console window...although I think it's stuck at that percentage again.
Eta: SMP2 client just hit 82% so it must be working, but it's still yellow and 0 PPD in HFM.NET. During the F@H v7 client setup I chose "GPU" but noticed "GPU AND CPU" was an option. Should I be running the F@H v7 client for both GPU/CPU and get rid of my SMP2 client? That would be rather convenient having everything in one FAHControl window...
I also changed the flag in the SMP2 client from -smp to smp 3. Without the F@H v7 client running my total CPU usage is around 75-80% and cores 1/3 are near maxed with cores 0/2 hovering between 50-75%. With the F@H v7 client running my total CPU usage is 100%. I'm also still seeing a yellow status and no PPD for my SMP2 client in HFM.NET but it is currently at 81% according to the console window...although I think it's stuck at that percentage again.
Eta: SMP2 client just hit 82% so it must be working, but it's still yellow and 0 PPD in HFM.NET. During the F@H v7 client setup I chose "GPU" but noticed "GPU AND CPU" was an option. Should I be running the F@H v7 client for both GPU/CPU and get rid of my SMP2 client? That would be rather convenient having everything in one FAHControl window...
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
HFM doesn't yet work with v7 due to changes in the way it writes logs. There's an internal beta that adds v7 compatibility but no public release as of now. The PPD calculations that v7 does aren't accurate either, especially if you pause/restart a WU. I use MtM's FAHWatch when I want to monitor PPD on v7; I can't remember which other monitoring tools work with v7 right now.
Running SMP+GPU in v7 is likely the most convenient option. You don't have to do it that way, but I don't see any compelling reason not to. Just make sure to finish up the SMP unit you're running by starting the client with the -oneunit flag before starting up the v7 SMP slot.
As to what was going wrong with your SMP performance, I'm not quite sure. I see it progressed nicely up until 81%, at which point it didn't progress for about 16 minutes before you closed it. This was followed by a bunch of quick stops and starts, leaving little time for progress, then the current run. Did you start the GPU client at around 20:55? That could have been the cause of the slowdown. I'm not sure why HFM is still showing yellow; I know it takes a couple frames before it's ready to make a prediction, but going from 80 to 82% should have been enough from my recollection. Since it's been some time since your last post, is it progressing normally again? I'm not an expert on affinity settings, but it's possible that your previous settings could be unnecessary with the SMP client restricted to SMP 3.
Finally, do you have a passkey? If you get one and complete 10 SMP WUs, you'll get bonus points on your future SMP WUs provided you keep up an 80% success rate (which is not hard at all).
Running SMP+GPU in v7 is likely the most convenient option. You don't have to do it that way, but I don't see any compelling reason not to. Just make sure to finish up the SMP unit you're running by starting the client with the -oneunit flag before starting up the v7 SMP slot.
As to what was going wrong with your SMP performance, I'm not quite sure. I see it progressed nicely up until 81%, at which point it didn't progress for about 16 minutes before you closed it. This was followed by a bunch of quick stops and starts, leaving little time for progress, then the current run. Did you start the GPU client at around 20:55? That could have been the cause of the slowdown. I'm not sure why HFM is still showing yellow; I know it takes a couple frames before it's ready to make a prediction, but going from 80 to 82% should have been enough from my recollection. Since it's been some time since your last post, is it progressing normally again? I'm not an expert on affinity settings, but it's possible that your previous settings could be unnecessary with the SMP client restricted to SMP 3.
Finally, do you have a passkey? If you get one and complete 10 SMP WUs, you'll get bonus points on your future SMP WUs provided you keep up an 80% success rate (which is not hard at all).
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
Those task manager affinity settings revert to default if the program was closed and re-opened, so it was only during one instance that the affinity was changed. The SMP client sat at 82% for quite a while and still wasn't showing properly in HFM.net so I just closed it.
I launched both clients about an hour before bed and they were both fine when I got around to shutting my screens off for the night so it wasn't from loading/unloading the GPU client. Some time later today I'll launch the SMP client with the -oneunit flag to see if it finishes and then uninstall it so I can try out the v7 for CPU.
I do not have a passkey and was unaware that you got bonus points for having one. I'll look in to that.
Eta: On that passkey page you linked it said the bonus points program is available in the SMP2 client. Does this mean I won't get passkey bonus points if I uninstall the SMP2 client and use the v7 client for CPU folding?
I launched both clients about an hour before bed and they were both fine when I got around to shutting my screens off for the night so it wasn't from loading/unloading the GPU client. Some time later today I'll launch the SMP client with the -oneunit flag to see if it finishes and then uninstall it so I can try out the v7 for CPU.
I do not have a passkey and was unaware that you got bonus points for having one. I'll look in to that.
Eta: On that passkey page you linked it said the bonus points program is available in the SMP2 client. Does this mean I won't get passkey bonus points if I uninstall the SMP2 client and use the v7 client for CPU folding?
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
You will be getting Bonus Points on all Bonus WUs provided that you are qualified for it. Generally speaking, the Client version that you are using isn't tied to the Bonus Points.johnny_dot_exe wrote:...Eta: On that passkey page you linked it said the bonus points program is available in the SMP2 client. Does this mean I won't get passkey bonus points if I uninstall the SMP2 client and use the v7 client for CPU folding?
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
I have the v7 client running GPU and CPU right now. During the initial setup I had it do GPU only then added CPU later on. I left the CPU set at -1 so the program could pick the best setting which appears to be all four cores being used.
According to FAHControl...
CPU Estimated PPD = 664.56
GPU Estimated PPD = 6050.14
I uninstalled the SMP2 client before doing this but I completely forget to let it run out that last WU that was at 82%. That was also before I got a passkey. All folding done on the v7 client so far has been with a passkey.
Is there anything I should tweak or change or am I good to go with this setup? It sure is nice having both cores built in to one client with monitoring.
According to FAHControl...
CPU Estimated PPD = 664.56
GPU Estimated PPD = 6050.14
I uninstalled the SMP2 client before doing this but I completely forget to let it run out that last WU that was at 82%. That was also before I got a passkey. All folding done on the v7 client so far has been with a passkey.
Is there anything I should tweak or change or am I good to go with this setup? It sure is nice having both cores built in to one client with monitoring.

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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
The GPU and CPU fighting for time will still occur, so you should change the CPU field to 3. While it says you should use a multiple of 2, 3 will not cause any problems (certain cores can't work on large prime numbers of threads, but 3 is not large enough to be troublesome).
Also, though it's rather minor, you may want to set next-unit-percentage on the SMP slot to 100. By default that value, which controls when the client downloads the next WU, is set to 99. Since bonuses are calculated from when the WU is first downloaded, you'll lose some points by downloading it at 99% instead of 100% since it will sit there while the previous WU finishes. With your hardware it shouldn't be a noticeable difference, but unless you have a very slow internet connection there's no real upside to downloading it early.
Also, though it's rather minor, you may want to set next-unit-percentage on the SMP slot to 100. By default that value, which controls when the client downloads the next WU, is set to 99. Since bonuses are calculated from when the WU is first downloaded, you'll lose some points by downloading it at 99% instead of 100% since it will sit there while the previous WU finishes. With your hardware it shouldn't be a noticeable difference, but unless you have a very slow internet connection there's no real upside to downloading it early.
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
From what I am seeing it assigns cores as 0, 1, 2, and 3 so to use 3 cores I'd have to set it to 2. Doing this only reduces the total CPU usage during folding rather than only having it fold on 3 of my four cores. If I set it to -1 or 3, both of which should be all 4 cores, it increases my total CPU usage. Neither results in 100% CPU usage like the SMP2 client did which is resulting in very poor PPD/folding. Unless I can figure out what's wrong here I'll probably just remove the CPU slot and focus on GPU only.Zagen30 wrote:The GPU and CPU fighting for time will still occur, so you should change the CPU field to 3. While it says you should use a multiple of 2, 3 will not cause any problems (certain cores can't work on large prime numbers of threads, but 3 is not large enough to be troublesome).
Also, though it's rather minor, you may want to set next-unit-percentage on the SMP slot to 100. By default that value, which controls when the client downloads the next WU, is set to 99. Since bonuses are calculated from when the WU is first downloaded, you'll lose some points by downloading it at 99% instead of 100% since it will sit there while the previous WU finishes. With your hardware it shouldn't be a noticeable difference, but unless you have a very slow internet connection there's no real upside to downloading it early.
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Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
You seem to be confusing the slot number with the setting for SMP. So your CPU slot is usually set to be slot 0. Editing the settings for that slot, the default setting for a SMP slot is -1 which uses whatever the folding client can see for cores or threads with multi-threaded CPU's. You can manually set the slot to 1, 2, 3 or 4 with your CPU.
Re: Folding on Sapphire 5830 and AMD 965.
Also, you're confused about the FAH setting for smp. Assuming we're talking about a Quad, the hardware has four CPUs, identified as cpu0 thriugh cpu3. That's not useful information. Nobody cares which CPU is used, only the quantity that are working on important tasks.
When you configure a smp slot, the FAH value is set to -1 which means "all of them" so the setup program configures it to use all four CPUs -- or you can manually configure it to use 4 CPUs.
Similarly, you can manually configure it to use a maximum of 3 CPUs, leaving one unused. That doesn't have anything to do with which specific CPUs are used, only quantity. If one is busy, it will use the other three. If two are busy, it will use the other two due to FAH's low priority setting and one of FAH's threads will wait. If all four are idle, it will choose three at random.
To keep the GPU supplied with data, the FahCore for the GPU will compete with whatever else is going on and if it has to wait, the GPU will not be kept busy. For best performance, statistically, there should be a lot if the time that one GPU and three CPU threads are processing with nothing extra having to wait, so smp:3 is the best setting. If you decide not to run the GPU, then smp:4 is the best option.
When you configure a smp slot, the FAH value is set to -1 which means "all of them" so the setup program configures it to use all four CPUs -- or you can manually configure it to use 4 CPUs.
Similarly, you can manually configure it to use a maximum of 3 CPUs, leaving one unused. That doesn't have anything to do with which specific CPUs are used, only quantity. If one is busy, it will use the other three. If two are busy, it will use the other two due to FAH's low priority setting and one of FAH's threads will wait. If all four are idle, it will choose three at random.
To keep the GPU supplied with data, the FahCore for the GPU will compete with whatever else is going on and if it has to wait, the GPU will not be kept busy. For best performance, statistically, there should be a lot if the time that one GPU and three CPU threads are processing with nothing extra having to wait, so smp:3 is the best setting. If you decide not to run the GPU, then smp:4 is the best option.
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