Per-machine/WU web stats

[darkbasic]

You do not need to install HFM on every machine in order to access their stats.

Nice, I thinked it had a client/server architecture
So I just need a NFS/sshfs share to point HFM to the remote servers folders, that's a viable solution.

I will wait for HFM V7 compatibility, thanks

[Nathan_P]

You do not need to install HFM on every machine in order to access their stats.

Nice, I thinked it had a client/server architecture
So I just need a NFS/sshfs share to point HFM to the remote servers folders, that's a viable solution.

I will wait for HFM V7 compatibility, thanks

Pretty much, on ubuntu 10.10 desktop i just set up permission to shere the folder and off i went.

[sco01]

ChasR

HFM doesn't yet work with v7

HFM.Client 0.7.0.372 work with v7

[darkbasic]

ChasR

HFM doesn't yet work with v7

HFM.Client 0.7.0.372 work with v7

Tried it, but it asks for ip, port and password, not for the log directory...

[ChasR]

That is the way v7 networking works and is probably the way HFM will work, when it works.

[ChasR]

ChasR

HFM doesn't yet work with v7

HFM.Client 0.7.0.372 work with v7

You sure about that? My recollection of 0.7.0.372 is that it is a network connectivity test version.

[darkbasic]

That is the way v7 networking works.

WTF? You said:

Run HFM on a Windows Workstation and HFM will still monitor the Linux boxes [...] You will have to share the FAH directory on the server with the workstation running HFM.

So HFM should only need access to the remote FAH directory, right?
Why does it ask for ip/port/password instead?
I downloaded HFM.Client 0.7.0.372.zip as sco01 suggested.

[ChasR]

I also said this:

"Sadly, HFM doesn't yet work with v7. Development is underway on a new version for v7."

I didn't know what version of the client you were running and subsequent posts were about how HFM works with v6 clients, until you said I'll wait on a version that works with v7 of the client.

I have HFM 0.7.0.372 on my machine and it is only a test tool for network connectivity.

v7 has built in network connectivity and with FAHControl, the ability to monitor AND control remote clients. FAHControl connects to the remote client by netbios host name or IP through the default port of 36330 (which will have to be open on the remote machine). HFM is going to have to work the same way with v7. v7 doesn't maintain WU history by machine. If you want to do that, and do it now, you will have to run v6.34 of the client and then you can use HFM to monitor your clients. I have been slow to adopt v7 because there isn't a good monitor just yet, but the ability to remotely control every instance is appealing.

[ChasR]

You could try FAHWatch7. It maintains some WU history.

[jimerickson]

@ChasR: +1

FAHWatch7 is excellent at this.

[darkbasic]

OK, I though there was no difference with V7 because I saw that FAHWatch7 does search for log files too...

EDIT: I already tried FAHWatch7 but I didn't find how to point it to a remote machine, it wants to connect using SMB

[Jorge1950]

Hi,
I'm searching a way to monitor my machines and I still didn't find a viable solution.
I want to see a list of the completed WUs for my account, each one with the name/specs of the machine which elaborated it.
Also, a list of the machines which submitted WUs with my account, each one with total score, PPD, list of submitted WUs, % of WUs received after the preferred deadline, etc.
I was on BOINC before (Rosetta@home) and I had every kind of stats. It would be a useful diagnostic system having the stats I mentioned

Thanks,
Darkbasic

Look at: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20511&start=0

[bruce]

Why didn't they implement it in the official web stats?

Actually, they did collect that data quite some time ago. Gradually the database got bigger and bigger and took longer and longer to update. Rather than spend a lot more server capacity on data that was used by a relatively small percentage of the people, they decided it was better to remove that capability and devote the extra resources to science. The 3rd party tools (one of which, HFM, has been mentioned -- there are others) that can be installed locally give you that capability if you want it as long as you choose to devote a fraction of your folding resources to keeping track of that data locally.

[GreyWhiskers]

@ChasR: +1

FAHWatch7 is excellent at this.

++1 myself. MtM is working on the next version that will support 7.1.43.

Just to show what can be done with the history, I pulled info from several months of Uniprocessor WU data from the FAHWatch7 SQLite database, exported it to Excel where I pulled a pivot table to summarize WU performance vs project. In Excel, I created a column that rounded the ppd to the nearest 10, and used that column for the pivot table.

I now have 3 computers with 5 slots in v7, so all the history is available in the FAHWatch7 DB for massaging (or at least will once the v7.1.43 version is ready). Another BTW - I set the log-rotate-max parameter to 60 in the GUI CONFIGURE - EXPERT - Extra Client Options. That makes sure that the history is kept for a long time - 60 log files.

Quote below was from a post I did last week.

Re: Terrible TFP! Help me!
by GreyWhiskers » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:31 am...

Here is an Excel pivot table of the HP Uniprocessor work units between July and December 2011 - only 34 of them since many have been the monsters. This shows the wide variety of PPD from different projects - most are under 120 ppd, but the Project 70xx WUs are around 300 ppd. Those later projects are from Badi' Abdul-Wahid and Prof. Jesus Izaguirre at Notre Dame, working on "a novel means to significantly accelearate Folding@home Molecular Dynamics calculations by 100x without any additional increase in hardware".

Note - the raw stats came out of MtM's FAHWatch7 alpha and beta test versions exporting the stats to an SQLite DB, which is then converted to Excel .csv using the SQLite Database Browser software.

[darkbasic]

I'd like to use Fahwatch7, but

I already tried FAHWatch7 but I didn't find how to point it to a remote machine, it wants to connect using SMB

I can't install samba in a linux server which acts as a firewall for 15 networks. Why doesn't it allow to simply point to the log directory and let me use whatever I want (nfs/sshfs/...)?