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Posted: **Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:14 pm**

I'm getting this on all the 57xx series WU's no matter what GPU it running on or what system I'm running it on.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7184
I've also posted here on this as well for the 5752 WU and when these WU's go wrong like this it locks up the entire system and I have to do a hard reset to reboot.

I'm running Vista x64, 4Gig of ram, (2) GTX 260's (NOT SLI) and 177.83 drivers.
This also happens on the 8600GT and 9800GTX systems.
I have no problems at all with other WU's just the 57xx series.

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[05:01:29] Folding@Home GPU Core - Beta
[05:01:29] Version 1.19 (Mon Nov 3 09:34:13 PST 2008)
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[05:01:29] Compiler  : Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.762 for 80x86 
[05:01:29] Build host: amoeba
[05:01:29] Board Type: Nvidia
[05:01:29] Core      : 
[05:01:29] Preparing to commence simulation
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[05:01:29] - Created dyn
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[05:01:29] Project: 5750 (Run 13, Clone 133, Gen 15)
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[06:57:47] Run: exception thrown during GuardedRun
[06:57:47] Run: exception thrown in GuardedRun -- Gromacs cannot continue further.
[06:57:47] Going to send back what have done -- stepsTotalG=10000000
[06:57:47] Work fraction=0.8359 steps=10000000.

Posted: **Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:43 pm**

There's no report for this WU in the DB yet.

Posted: **Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:46 pm**

toTOW wrote:There's no report for this WU in the DB yet.

It's not just this one it's all the 57xx (511 pointers) that are causing issues with my systems.
Looking through there are a bunch of people reporting the same issues with these WU's.

Posted: **Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:15 am**

Project: 5750 (Run 13, Clone 133, Gen 15)

Two other donors have now completed this WU and returned it for full credit. It isn't a bad WU.

Posted: **Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:26 am**

sortofageek wrote:Project: 5750 (Run 13, Clone 133, Gen 15)

Two other donors have now completed this WU and returned it for full credit. It isn't a bad WU.

Two donors out of how many that have got this WU from the servers and that makes it ok?

How many were sent out and how many were return 100% complete? I'd like to see how 2 returned WU's justify there not being a problem.

I'll just start deleting these WU's as they come in to avoid issues on all the systems

Posted: **Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:42 am**

If one donor is able to complete a WU successfully, then the problem cannot be with the WU. It must be some other cause. The WU isn't bad or nobody could complete it.

The cause could be one or more of any number of issues, such as:

1. The GPU card itself. It may be that certain makes/models of GPU cards are having trouble, impossible for us to determine from this end unless those having trouble with these WUs post detailed information about their systems.
2. A driver
3. Bad RAM
4. Bad disk
5. File corruption
6. Other software
7. Heat
8. Overclocking

And the list goes on. There are many who post here who are adept at narrowing down such issues and helping to find the culprit, but they can only help if you provide enough detail about your hardware, software, drivers, error messages in logs, etc. and what you are doing at the time the system crashes.

If it crashes when you are running particular software, try it without running that software. If it then completes successfully, you have a start toward isolating the problem. If you update a driver and are then able to complete one of these WUs, you can be fairly confident you have found the issue. If you run memtest and find the memory is bad, that could be it. Like that ...

All we are saying is that the problem is not a bad work unit.

Posted: **Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:56 am**

sortofageek wrote:If one donor is able to complete a WU successfully, then the problem cannot be with the WU. It must be some other cause. The WU isn't bad or nobody could complete it.

The cause could be one or more of any number of issues, such as:

1. The GPU card itself. It may be that certain makes/models of GPU cards are having trouble, impossible for us to determine from this end unless those having trouble with these WUs post detailed information about their systems.
2. A driver
3. Bad RAM
4. Bad disk
5. File corruption
6. Other software
7. Heat
8. Overclocking

And the list goes on. There are many who post here who are adept at narrowing down such issues and helping to find the culprit, but they can only help if you provide enough detail about your hardware, software, drivers, error messages in logs, etc. and what you are doing at the time the system crashes.

If it crashes when you are running particular software, try it without running that software. If it then completes successfully, you have a start toward isolating the problem. If you update a driver and are then able to complete one of these WUs, you can be fairly confident you have found the issue. If you run memtest and find the memory is bad, that could be it. Like that ...

All we are saying is that the problem is not a bad work unit.

I am also quite adept at tracing down a problem and fixing it.
This happens on 3 different systems and even if they are completely idle aside from crunching this happens and only on the 57xx WU's that are worth 511 points.
This ONLY happens with these WU's and no others so why would it not happen with all instead of just a few?
All I'm saying is 2 good out of 10,000 doesn't make sense to me and who's to say there aren't 1,000 failed and not reported WU's because when this happens to me and I restart the client it does not continue, it gets another WU from the servers and starts fresh.

Posted: **Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:10 am**

I keep fairly good track of my EUEs and I've had about 160 units in the 57xx series (according to the stats page), but only reported about 5 bad ones (maybe a few more on my other computer, I'll check later), and those were 5753s and 5754s. It might be your driver. I've seen some reports of people upgrading the drivers and having problems. I'll provide info on my cards later. One difference is that I'm using Windows XP.

Edit: checked my other machine and I don't have any EUEs in the 57xx series on it. My two cards are NVIDIA Quadro FX-3700 and BFG 9800GTX+.

Posted: **Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:27 am**

ItsLasher wrote: This happens on 3 different systems and even if they are completely idle aside from crunching this happens and only on the 57xx WU's that are worth 511 points.

What is common in your 3 systems ? OS ? drivers ? hardware parts ? ...

Posted: **Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:03 pm**

toTOW wrote:
ItsLasher wrote: This happens on 3 different systems and even if they are completely idle aside from crunching this happens and only on the 57xx WU's that are worth 511 points.
What is common in your 3 systems ? OS ? drivers ? hardware parts ? ...

The only thing that is common between the 3 is the OS which is Vista x64 and all 3 installs are from their own separate discs.

Posted: **Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:35 am**

Two other donors have now completed this WU and returned it for full credit. It isn't a bad WU.

I've successfully ran 511 point series on both XP and Vista with overclocked GPUs and successfully returned them all many times over, but that doesn't mean that there isn't an issue with these WUs.They use far more processing resources than a WU should to be considered truly stable. They push one's GPUs to their very limit and if ones system and or GPU isn't exceptionally well cooled a problem is likely to occur.

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