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Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:35 am
by stev
Recently a new person started folding under our team. We are not sure if it a prank or of bad taste that they had picked out the name of " BUTTSECKS " This would get past the automated screening of names due to the mis-spelling.
I poked around the Stanford Folding pages and didn't find anywhere to report this problem.
Can someone assist?
Thanks
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:01 am
by 7im
Hello stev, welcome to the Folding Forum.
There is no user name screening. Free speech and all that. If someone wants to fold using such an infantile name, so be it. Sorry, not much more that we can do.
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:31 am
by anandhanju
Sounds like MstrBlstr's forte. He has been responsible for taking appropriate action in the past.
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:47 am
by MstrBlstr
Nope.
Sorry, policy is that user names will not be changed unless deemed highly offensive. And it has to be REALLY bad.
Do some donor name searches for some colorful names, and you will see what I mean.
It would take and enormous amount of valuable time to change all the questionable names. And even then, it would not change what the third party stats sites have picked up.
There are some filters in place for the more explicit words.
IE... Look up "starts with" insert F WORD here, and you will see what comes up. Replaces the F word with underscores.... Such as ____this.
Understand that it is difficult to pick out what words will be filtered, as some could conflict with legitimate names. EX... If Butt was filtered, it would interfere with names like butterfield, butters, butterfly...ect....
There will always be childish people. We just have to be more adult, and overlook their childish behavior.
Of course, we are always open to acceptable suggestions.
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:23 am
by stev
So, if the user actually had an ID of ButtSex it would still be legit? Now that is so strange.
There are plenty of youths who are under the age of 13 that are folding for several of the teams out there. These minors will be reading other members IDs who are folding with them. It would be strange that ButtSecks passes any federal internet laws or laws that cover grants to Stanford for the working being done.
There is freedom of free speech in an adult forum, however pubic forums or in this case team ranks are for all ages besides adult in context. There are internet laws in each country covering online material exposed to minors, America is no exception either.
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:57 am
by P5-133XL
I find it interesting that if it is obcene enough Stanford filters the offending name from their own stats. However, the full name still goes through for 3rd party stats.
An example:
Extreme OC'ing unfiltered name vs
Stanfords filtered name
You see my team had the same problem and I brought the issue up, in the old forums, wanting him or his name removed from the team. Our site has rather strict obcenity rules, so it was important to us. However, I could not get them to removed it. I did find out about their filter, which was interesting to me. In the end, we just live with it, no matter how distasteful.
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:18 am
by stev
P5-133XL, you have a valid point. If people viewing your team stats come across an offending/obscene name, they would have thoughts about your team and possibly this entire F@H effort.
A puzzling question then. How many people have been turned of to F@H for the cause due to offending/obscene names in the team rankings to just stop folding or not to just in the cause overall?
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:22 am
by stev
MstrBlstr wrote:Nope.
Sorry, policy is that user names will not be changed unless deemed highly offensive. And it has to be REALLY bad.
There are some filters in place for the more explicit words.
IE... Look up "starts with" insert F WORD here, and you will see what comes up. Replaces the F word with underscores.... Such as ____this.
Understand that it is difficult to pick out what words will be filtered, as some could conflict with legitimate names. EX... If Butt was filtered, it would interfere with names like butterfield, butters, butterfly...ect....
Can the filter check for the term SECKS then?
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:45 am
by bruce
stev wrote:Can the filter check for the term SECKS then?
Surely you must be talking about Hrs, Mins, and Secs.
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:53 am
by jrweiss
Eye no that hrs cell secs, but what are mins?
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:13 pm
by Beerfloat
stev wrote:So, if the user actually had an ID of ButtSex it would still be legit? Now that is so strange.
I've no idea what all of y'all are talking about, can someone explain what this buttsex is?
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:05 pm
by P5-133XL
The people to ask are your mother and father, not strangers.
Irritating Minority quirk - tolerance goes BOTH ways
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:28 am
by al2
stev wrote:So, if the user actually had an ID of ButtSex it would still be legit? Now that is so strange.
There are plenty of youths who are under the age of 13 that are folding for several of the teams out there. These minors will be reading other members IDs who are folding with them. It would be strange that ButtSecks passes any federal internet laws or laws that cover grants to Stanford for the working being done.
There is freedom of free speech in an adult forum, however pubic forums or in this case team ranks are for all ages besides adult in context. There are internet laws in each country covering online material exposed to minors, America is no exception either.
What are you proposing and WHAT is the exact practical nature of your problem?Unless you intend to isolate youths from the rest of Modern day society( ie you live as society hermits which gives offspring less chance of freedom of choice, of adapting to different environments) with the MASS Media everywhere you go everywhere you look, hear etc, Internet access EVERYWHERE libraries,coffee shops, mobile devices,peer pressure, ease of personal discrete communication etc etc). So with all this you expect minors to RARELY HEAR(read,see etc) such words as buttsex - but seeing it from IDs of a such scale science project is a MAJOR contributary factor?
OK so the KIDS hear words like buttsex all the time in modern society (unless the parents isolate them which has the potential to cause all sorts of serious psychological problems as science has observed + documented)....AND.......??????What SIGNIFICANT,SERIOUS, PRACTICAL EVENT HAPPENS?What is the great impact this has on KIDS psychology,pls provide significant scientific(all the usual conventional independant reviewing and rereviewing) documented evidence = to curtail the freedom of choice and speech of millions it is going to be something undeniababley serious that these kids will have to suffer after beeing exposed to such words as buttsex.
Or are the KIDS just an excuse and its YOU thats find these words offensive - because you know if it is your problem the majority of the world is NOT going to suffer to please a MINORITY (unlike prejudice you aren't being treated differently, from what is expected of the majority to get on with each other) its going to expect you to TOLERATE or IGNORE with such things because the world has do the same with minorities things that irritate/offend them, or else no-one would get on and it wouldn't be possible for freedom of speech etc eg you wouldn't be able to COMPLAIN but you can because there is no strict DRACONIAN rules HERE that prevent the majority of people saying certain things because a minority people find them offensive - you would need a close minded seperatist forum for something like that as there are but that is NOT going to work for something like a science based project that needs reactive open minds and community based communication.
Just because there are Laws in statuate doesn't mean they are in practice all upheld/enforced (AKA common sense this includes copious amount of language like buttsex in Public forums - i gather you are someone that never explored the web, its relative lack of control is part of todays technology culture(perhaps in your part of the world its not developed yet?) - considering the REALLY sick + bad things that can happen on the web i find it insulting that you put your effort into something like this - we have to remember what it 'cost' (+ still costs) (and how much(life,suffering) for wars that tried to remove our freedom of speech/choice/thought beacause the 'cost would be MUCH more without it or else why didn't we just let Hitler rule the world?).
In the UK there was/is a law that forbids anyone else being in the same room as 2 men having sex. This law was/is never actively enforced since unsurprisingly no-one has ever questioned such a situation ( and anyone who would have been irrational and prejudiced to such an inane degree would have been sectioned under the UK mental health LONG ago, after all in the west it is the age were SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY dominate, the DARK ages died a long time ago regardless of its "dying embers")
Out of AMAZING coincidence my team has a very similar ID but with the all important "?"
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/mai ... TTSECKS%3F
cdfreaks.com "the largest consumer electronics community of the world"
CDFREAKS (PC media storage hardware) is a HUGE MULTINATIONAL PUBLIC forum. search the data base for YOURSELF and GUESS WHAT... not a mention of this fah ID whatsover....the only reference are countless jocular threads with butt and sex in the posts.... what happens if the KIDS see THREADS + threads of such words??, why don't you go over there now and get them to clean up their act, what about all the OTHER millions of PUBLIC forums on the WWW that have similar + worse volumes of such language.....it will be a (million) life long task...and thats just this generation!!!!!
Fah MASS EXODUS
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:38 am
by al2
stev wrote:P5-133XL, you have a valid point. If people viewing your team stats come across an offending/obscene name, they would have thoughts about your team and possibly this entire F@H effort.
A puzzling question then. How many people have been turned of to F@H for the cause due to offending/obscene names in the team rankings to just stop folding or not to just in the cause overall?
I can tell you how many people........slightly less than the number of STRAITJACKETS actually required. I'll refer you to my point about such people being sectioned under the UK mental health act. After all people that have such thought and actions from them are so INSANELY shallow, stupid ,prejudice, irrational that they naturally would be a significant hinderance to the cause. I mean come on a GOLDFISH has more of a chance with its cognitive ability to operate a PC than they do, never mind be a DONAR for FAH!
So no puzzles at all! EVOLUTION is demonstrating its self FANTASTICALLY here as it is EVERYWHERE ELSE on the PLANET!
AND if i wasn't so niave i would say you are making a veiled threat, you know like saying something horrible might happen to somebody from something you can't find out about if they don't do what you want. You know like Slaves were told they would go to hell if they were BAD (ie disobey ANYTHING white men (who had just invaded, pilaged and plundered these Africans' homes for some reason)said) BUT if they were GOOD they would have a SECOND life of ETERNAL BLISS after this HELLISH mortal one - good deal YEAH? no matter how much sh!t you get in the first life you still got something to strive for afterwards - emotional manipulation of the IGNORANT - oh well as least its not as OFFENSIVE or IMMORAL as using buttsex for an fah ID
Re: Team user using profane ID name
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:23 am
by anandhanju
Easy now