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Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:43 am
by TiO2
I have a spare GPU sitting around (an RTX 2070 Super), but unfortunately I can't fit a 2nd GPU in my main rig. I have an old 1st-gen Core i3-530 and a Dell motherboard sitting around that I could put the GPU into, and was wondering if a CPU that old (no AVX, etc.) can still support GPU folding. Thanks!

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:55 am
by muziqaz
TiO2 wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:43 am I have a spare GPU sitting around (an RTX 2070 Super), but unfortunately I can't fit a 2nd GPU in my main rig. I have an old 1st-gen Core i3-530 and a Dell motherboard sitting around that I could put the GPU into, and was wondering if a CPU that old (no AVX, etc.) can still support GPU folding. Thanks!
Never hurts to try. Install 64bit OS, and see what happens.
I am not aware of fahclient's requirement for CPU to have AVX. Just 64bit. As long as you do not try to fold on that CPU, you should be fine

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:47 pm
by toTOW
Yes, first generation iX is the minimum requirement for GPU folding. I'm running an i7 920 and an i7 860 without issues.

Older CPUs (Core 2 Duo / Quad) won't be able to run GPU cores. They lacks SSE 4.2 support that is required.

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 11:05 pm
by calxalot
I believe the current cpu cores are for
sse4.1, avx-256, or avx2-256

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:20 am
by muziqaz
avx128?

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:26 am
by calxalot
No. ARM NEON is 128, I believe.

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 11:37 am
by muziqaz
calxalot wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:26 am No. ARM NEON is 128, I believe.
I thought x86 AVX was 128, AVX2 bumped it to 256

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 11:54 am
by calxalot
I’m looking at the buildbot settings. It is what I said, albeit the cores were previously built by someone else. Probably with github actions. So they could be different.

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:07 pm
by Albuquerquefx
muziqaz wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 11:37 amI thought x86 AVX was 128, AVX2 bumped it to 256
That was Intel SSE with the 128-bit registers; MMX was 64-bit and AVX introduced 256-bit registers. AVX is also when x86 picked up dedicated FMA instructions.

As for the original question, keep in mind you'll lose a measurable chunk of performance due to the lack of Resizable BAR on old chipsets. I have a thread posted in this same subforum (look down about five or six posts from this one) where I inadvertently stumbled into this performance issue on some of my home folding rigs. Suffice it to say, ReBAR can cost you somewhere between 5-15% of your GPU performance depending on WU.

If you've got a system board which is new enough to support PCIe 3, then it's at least possible there's a firmware modification out there on Github which could allow you to insert the ReBAR code into your (albeit, very old) motherboard. I have an ancient Z77 motherboard which now supports ReBAR thanks to a firmware module injection tool. Obviously do this at your own risk; I wasn't too worried about a decade-old board ;)

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:10 pm
by muziqaz
Albuquerquefx wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:07 pm
muziqaz wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 11:37 amI thought x86 AVX was 128, AVX2 bumped it to 256
That was Intel SSE with the 128-bit registers; MMX was 64-bit and AVX introduced 256-bit registers. AVX is also when x86 picked up dedicated FMA instructions.
Alternative reality strikes again :(

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:31 pm
by Joe_H
You may be confusing the existence of AVX supporting 128-bit SIMD as well as 256-bit SIMD. As initially implemented by AMD the 128-bit SIMD instructions were often faster, some unofficially called that "AVX 128".

AVX2 then made most of the vector integer instructions 256-bit, before many were just 128-bit.

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:43 pm
by muziqaz
Joe_H wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:31 pm You may be confusing the existence of AVX supporting 128-bit SIMD as well as 256-bit SIMD. As initially implemented by AMD the 128-bit SIMD instructions were often faster, some unofficially called that "AVX 128".

AVX2 then made most of the vector integer instructions 256-bit, before many were just 128-bit.
Yeah, I probably am misremembering it ;)

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:53 pm
by Albuquerquefx
I think you can be forgiven for not remembering the minutae from an instruction set that came out like 20+ years ago :D

Re: Does 1st-gen Intel Core support GPU folding?

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 8:30 pm
by muziqaz
Albuquerquefx wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:53 pm I think you can be forgiven for not remembering the minutae from an instruction set that came out like 20+ years ago :D
Yeah, can't believe it has been 14 years since it showed up in Sandy bridge