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Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:51 pm
by smurfcorpse
I installed 8.4.9 on one of my PCs and my PPD is half of what it was.

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17:59:56:I1:WU1: Homepage: https://cauldrondevelopment.com/
17:59:56:I1:WU1: License: LGPL-2.1-or-later
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Date: Jul 25 2024
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Time: 05:22:43
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Revision: f1cd4c791e8c40a35dcfeab3ab85d910949cc0cb
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Branch: HEAD
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Compiler: Visual C++
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Options: $( /TP $) /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Platform: win32 10
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Bits: 64
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Mode: Release
17:59:56:I1:WU1:************************************ System ************************************
17:59:56:I1:WU1: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7400 CPU @ 3.00GHz
17:59:56:I1:WU1: CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9
17:59:56:I1:WU1: CPUs: 4
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Memory: 15.90GiB
17:59:56:I1:WU1:Free Memory: 12.93GiB
17:59:56:I1:WU1: OS Version: 10.0
17:59:56:I1:WU1:Has Battery: false
17:59:56:I1:WU1: On Battery: false
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Hostname: A-WARE
17:59:56:I1:WU1: UTC Offset: -4
17:59:56:I1:WU1: PID: 3036
17:59:56:I1:WU1: CWD: C:\ProgramData\FAHClient\work
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Exec: C:\ProgramData\FAHClient\cores\openmm-core-24\windows-10-64bit\release\fahcore-24-windows-10-64bit-release-8.1.4\FahCore_24.exe
17:59:56:I1:WU1:************************************ OpenMM ************************************
17:59:56:I1:WU1: Version: 8.1.1
17:59:56:I1:WU1:********************************************************************************
17:59:56:I1:WU1:Project: 18238 (Run 692, Clone 1, Gen 78)
17:59:56:I1:WU1:Digital signatures verified
17:59:56:I1:WU1:Folding@home GPU Core24 Folding@home Core
17:59:56:I1:WU1:Version 8.1.4
17:59:57:I1:WU1: Checkpoint write interval: 50000 steps (2%) [50 total]
17:59:57:I1:WU1: JSON viewer frame write interval: 25000 steps (1%) [100 total]
17:59:57:I1:WU1: XTC frame write interval: 10000 steps (0.4%) [250 total]
17:59:57:I1:WU1: TRR frame write interval: disabled
17:59:57:I1:WU1: Global context and integrator variables write interval: disabled
17:59:57:I1:WU1:There are 4 platforms available.
17:59:57:I1:WU1:Platform 0: Reference
17:59:57:I1:WU1:Platform 1: CPU
17:59:57:I1:WU1:Platform 2: OpenCL
17:59:57:I1:WU1: opencl-device 0 specified
17:59:57:I1:WU1:Platform 3: CUDA
17:59:57:I1:WU1: cuda-device 0 specified
18:00:10:I1:WU1:Attempting to create CUDA context:
18:00:10:I1:WU1: Configuring platform CUDA
18:00:21:I1:WU1: Using CUDA on CUDA Platform and gpu 0
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: Platform: CUDA
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: PlatformIndex: 0
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: Device: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: DeviceIndex: 0
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: Vendor: 0x10de
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: PCI: 01:00:00
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: Compute: 7.5
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: Driver: 12.9
18:00:21:I1:WU1: GPU info: GPU: true
18:00:22:I1:WU1:Completed 100000 out of 2500000 steps (4%)
18:06:37:I1:WU1:Completed 125000 out of 2500000 steps (5%)
18:12:45:I1:WU1:Completed 150000 out of 2500000 steps (6%)
18:12:48:I1:WU1:Checkpoint completed at step 150000
18:18:58:I1:WU1:Completed 175000 out of 2500000 steps (7%)
18:25:09:I1:WU1:Completed 200000 out of 2500000 steps (8%)
18:25:12:I1:WU1:Checkpoint completed at step 200000
18:31:23:I1:WU1:Completed 225000 out of 2500000 steps (9%)
18:37:36:I1:WU1:Completed 250000 out of 2500000 steps (10%)
18:37:39:I1:WU1:Checkpoint completed at step 250000
Is this normal? Can/should I go back to version 7?

Re: Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:13 pm
by smurfcorpse
Points are creeping up a bit. Still down a lot from what it was. I'll keep checking on it but still appears to be a big loss for today on that PC. This was my first Version 8 update. Tried update on another PC and points look like what I normally expect from that PC.

Re: Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:24 pm
by calxalot
The points displayed are an estimate and can be way off.

Re: Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:25 am
by arisu
The client has no effect on PPD. Its only job is to launch the cores which do the folding, and the cores are the same between v7 and v8. But it does estimate the PPD. Sometimes the estimates are off, and some projects give you a little more or less PPD than others. It's impossible to notice a trend with just one datum.

The client does just a few things. It requests a new work unit and runs the core on it. The core outputs a progress log which the client copies to its own log ("Completed 250000 out of 2500000 steps (10%)" was actually sent by the core and the client just prepended "18:37:36:I1:WU1:" to it). When the core hits 100%, it packages its work files into a single results file and it exits. The client notices that it exits and uploads the results file that the core left behind. That just repeats until the client is stopped or gets paused.

The core in your log is completing one percent every 6.2 minutes. It would be running at that rate whether you're using v7, v8, or just running the core on its own without any client at all. And the points you get is determined by how fast you complete the WU. So there's nothing to worry about as long as it's folding.

Re: Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:38 am
by muziqaz
Complete 10 WUs successfully under V8 and you should be fine

Re: Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:50 am
by arisu
muziqaz wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:38 am Complete 10 WUs successfully under V8 and you should be fine
I thought v8's PPD estimate always assumes bonus is active if passkey is set. OP is saying that the PPD estimate is half, not that the point returns are low.

Re: Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:53 am
by muziqaz
If passkey is present

Re: Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:55 am
by arisu
Oh right!

OP, did you set a passkey?

Re: Version 8 client half PPD

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:10 pm
by smurfcorpse
I did an update of V 7 and it looks like it imported my passkey team and username.

Points look about normal today. I guess I jumped the gun. Sorry for the erroneous post.

Thanks to all that replied!
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