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OpenCL conflicts ... F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:07 am
by Yesorno
I have a GTX 1070 and F@H simply doesn't start. I used to fold a long time ago, but recently I upgraded my overclocks and cleaned up my system, so I wanted to check how my PPD is doing.

F@H simply doesn't start. When I double click the .exe, it opens in Task Manager, but the web client doesn't load and the advanced control panel doesn't show up on the tray. What am I doing wrong?

I know that F@H requires OpenCL, and upon opening GPU-Z, it doesn't say I have OpenCL installed. What gives? Has Nvidia stopped supplying OpenCL with their drivers? I just did a clean install of all Nvidia drivers and it still doesn't install OpenCL.

Help!

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:34 am
by JimboPalmer
Basic information like if you are on Windows, MacOS or Linux will help give you advice. I am assuming 64 bit Windows 10.
Step One) got to NVIDIA's website and download the latest driver https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverR ... 5872/en-us If all you use your graphics card for is F@H, all you need is the video driver, the other software is not needed, but won't hurt.
Once the driver is installed, Step 2) Uninstall F@H including data, then re-install it using ALL the default settings. (since you deleted data, you will need to re-enter name, team, and passcode)

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:27 am
by Yesorno
JimboPalmer wrote:
Basic information like if you are on Windows, MacOS or Linux will help give you advice. I am assuming 64 bit Windows 10.
Step One) got to NVIDIA's website and download the latest driver https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverR ... 5872/en-us
Yes, Windows 10 64-bit.
16 GB RAM
i7-6700K overclocked

I already clean installed the Nvidia drivers, as mentioned in my OP. I've actually reinstalled them like 3 times now, but OpenCL refuses to be enabled (according to GPU-Z).
JimboPalmer wrote: Step 2) Uninstall F@H including data, then re-install it using ALL the default settings.
I also already tried clean installing F@H about 10 times now. Help!

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:41 am
by Yesorno
My log.txt file:

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*********************** Log Started 2019-04-20T02:05:32Z ***********************
02:05:32:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
02:05:32:      Website: https://foldingathome.org/
02:05:32:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2018 foldingathome.org
02:05:32:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
02:05:32:         Args: --open-web-control
02:05:32:       Config: <none>
02:05:32:******************************** Build ********************************
02:05:32:      Version: 7.5.1
02:05:32:         Date: May 11 2018
02:05:32:         Time: 13:06:32
02:05:32:   Repository: Git
02:05:32:     Revision: 4705bf53c635f88b8fe85af7675557e15d491ff0
02:05:32:       Branch: master
02:05:32:     Compiler: Visual C++ 2008
02:05:32:      Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /Ox /MT
02:05:32:     Platform: win32 10
02:05:32:         Bits: 32
02:05:32:         Mode: Release
02:05:32:******************************* System ********************************
02:05:32:          CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
02:05:32:       CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 94 Stepping 3
02:05:32:         CPUs: 8
02:05:32:       Memory: 15.96GiB
02:05:32:  Free Memory: 12.99GiB
02:05:32:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
02:05:32:   OS Version: 6.2
02:05:32:  Has Battery: false
02:05:32:   On Battery: false
02:05:32:   UTC Offset: -7
02:05:32:          PID: 8076
02:05:32:          CWD: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient
02:05:32:           OS: Windows 10 Home
02:05:32:      OS Arch: AMD64
02:05:32:         GPUs: 0
02:05:32:CUDA Device 0: Platform:0 Device:0 Bus:1 Slot:0 Compute:6.1 Driver:10.1
02:05:32:       OpenCL: Not detected
02:05:32:Win32 Service: false
02:05:32:***********************************************************************
02:05:32:<config>
02:05:32:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
02:05:32:</config>
02:05:32:Connecting to assign1.foldingathome.org:8080
02:05:33:Updated GPUs.txt
02:05:33:Read GPUs.txt
02:05:33:Trying to access database...
02:05:33:Successfully acquired database lock
02:05:33:Enabled folding slot 00: PAUSED cpu:6 (not configured)

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:37 am
by schmiddi
02:05:32: OpenCL: Not detected
That line indicates that your graphics drivers installation is not complete.
A complete istall would include OpenCL.

In which way did you install drivers? Via NVidia Experience?

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:48 am
by Yesorno
schmiddi wrote: In which way did you install drivers? Via NVidia Experience?

No.


1) www.geforce.com/drivers ---> fill out my info (GTX 1070 and W10 64-bit) ---> https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/145872

2) Download and run "425.31-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe" ---> Custom (Advanced) install

3) Uncheck the GeForce Experience crap, and check "Perform a clean installation" box.



And yes, I've restarted my computer like 50 times now.

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:38 am
by JimboPalmer
GPU-Z does not believe it has OpenCL, F@H does not believe it has OpenCL.
It would have OpenCL if the Nvidia installer recognized the card.

Can you post the GPU-Z data, so we can see what it thinks the card is?

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:01 pm
by Yesorno
JimboPalmer wrote: Can you post the GPU-Z data, so we can see what it thinks the card is?

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Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:28 pm
by foldy
3) Uncheck the GeForce Experience crap, and check "Perform a clean installation" box.
Maybe Windows 10 does not like the "Clean install" option. Try it without "clean". Check GPU-Z again. Which Windows 10 subversion 1803?

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:05 pm
by bollix47
Try getting your driver from http://www.nvidia.com/drivers not geforce.com.

fyi I'm using win 10 1809 and nvidia driver 418.91 which can be found by clicking "Beta & older drivers"

Also, have a look at the following link to see if anything there might explain your missing opencl:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... eworks-wdf

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:22 am
by Yesorno
foldy wrote: Maybe Windows 10 does not like the "Clean install" option. Try it without "clean". Check GPU-Z again. Which Windows 10 subversion 1803?
I already tried that. It was the first thing I tried. I'm running W10 1809.

bollix47 wrote:Try getting your driver from http://www.nvidia.com/drivers not geforce.com.
They're the same drivers... just different pages. And yes, I originally got my download from nvidia.com, not geforce.com. I only used geforce.com in my reply to the other guy because it was easier to type out.
bollix47 wrote: fyi I'm using win 10 1809 and nvidia driver 418.91 which can be found by clicking "Beta & older drivers"
I'm not going to downgrade my drivers just for F@H.
bollix47 wrote: Also, have a look at the following link to see if anything there might explain your missing opencl:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... eworks-wdf

CTRL + F and "OpenCL" yields no results.

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:51 am
by bruce
You seem to be looking at documentation for Microsoft drivers, not NVidia drivers. Downloading/installing the drivers from Microsoft will UNINSTALL OpenCL. I notice that GPU-Z indicates that you have PhysX installed. I always remove that when I turn off GeForce Experience.

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:26 am
by Yesorno
bruce wrote:You seem to be looking at documentation for Microsoft drivers, not NVidia drivers. Downloading/installing the drivers from Microsoft will UNINSTALL OpenCL. I notice that GPU-Z indicates that you have PhysX installed. I always remove that when I turn off GeForce Experience.
Ok, but I'm not using GeForce Experience anyway. Any more ideas?

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:30 am
by foldy
Lets check the version number of the OpenCL dlls in
C:\Windows\System32

There should be OpenCL.dll right click => context menu => Properties => Details
What is the file version?

Same for nvopencl64.dll

And registry values is anything there?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Khronos\OpenCL\Vendors
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Again same thing for 32bit as the FAHclient is 32bit and the FAHcore is 64bit
C:\Windows\SysWOW64
OpenCL.dll
nvopencl32.dll
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Khronos\OpenCL\Vendors

Re: F@H 7.5.1 doesn't start!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:56 am
by Yesorno
foldy wrote:Lets check the version number of the OpenCL dlls in
C:\Windows\System32

There should be OpenCL.dll right click => context menu => Properties => Details
What is the file version?
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foldy wrote: Same for nvopencl64.dll
I don't have that file in my System32 folder.
foldy wrote: And registry values is anything there?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Khronos\OpenCL\Vendors
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