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RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:42 pm
by Farfie
Hey guys, I don't know if there was a restructuring of ppd or what but my card seems to be under-performing at ~150k ppd. 419.17 drivers, Win10 x64, haven't DDU'd in a couple months, I could try that. But FahCore_21.exe only pulls between 2-5% of GPU when I have it set to Full usage in the advanced client. I'm hoping someone can work with me in attempts to resolve it in a logical process as I'm not the savviest at folding.
Thanks.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:17 pm
by bollix47
Welcome to the folding@home support forum Farfie!
The first possibility that comes to mind is the
Passkey. Do you have one and have you entered it in your config? If not you won't get any bonus points.
The second possibility would require you to post the 1st 100 or more lines (use the code tags) of your log.txt file which you'll find in the Folding@home Data Directory. We need to see from the start of the System Info section up to and including a few percentages of progress.
I suspect from what I can see re how long a WU is taking there's something wrong with your configuration but without the log it's impossible for me to be sure.
Did you recently add the 2080 to your system? If so, did you re-install the latest driver from
http://www.nvidia.com/drivers ? You may have to re-install the driver & the folding software in order for the GPU to be identified properly.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:53 pm
by Farfie
Oh, I had no idea you'd get bonus points for having a passkey. I just thought the points system ended up as an number system to compare system performance. I added the passkey provided from the past using the username/email method and am getting these bonus points.
Of course, I'm less concerned about this now seemingly arbitrary points system, and more so on the fact that my task manager is reporting only about 2-5% GPU usage from WU to WU. I've considered that perhaps the task manager is misreporting actual usage, but the computer still feels perfectly smooth, and I can run rather demanding games at the same time, so I'm tending to believe it's more accurate than not.
I had logging set lower to decrease drive writes, bad idea. I've set it back to 3 and restart the client. Here's the log:
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*********************** Log Started 2019-03-01T17:45:34Z ***********************
17:45:34:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
17:45:34: Website: https://foldingathome.org/
17:45:34: Copyright: (c) 2009-2018 foldingathome.org
17:45:34: Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
17:45:34: Args: --open-web-control
17:45:34: Config: C:\Users\Bryce\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\config.xml
17:45:34:******************************** Build ********************************
17:45:34: Version: 7.5.1
17:45:34: Date: May 11 2018
17:45:34: Time: 13:06:32
17:45:34: Repository: Git
17:45:34: Revision: 4705bf53c635f88b8fe85af7675557e15d491ff0
17:45:34: Branch: master
17:45:34: Compiler: Visual C++ 2008
17:45:34: Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /Ox /MT
17:45:34: Platform: win32 10
17:45:34: Bits: 32
17:45:34: Mode: Release
17:45:34:******************************* System ********************************
17:45:34: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz
17:45:34: CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9
17:45:34: CPUs: 8
17:45:34: Memory: 31.97GiB
17:45:34: Free Memory: 26.91GiB
17:45:34: Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
17:45:34: OS Version: 6.2
17:45:34: Has Battery: false
17:45:34: On Battery: false
17:45:34: UTC Offset: -5
17:45:34: PID: 2144
17:45:34: CWD: C:\Users\Bryce\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient
17:45:34: OS: Windows 10 Home
17:45:34: OS Arch: AMD64
17:45:34: GPUs: 1
17:45:34: GPU 0: Bus:1 Slot:0 Func:0 NVIDIA:7 TU104 [GeForce RTX 2080 Rev. A]
17:45:34: 10068
17:45:34: CUDA Device 0: Platform:0 Device:0 Bus:1 Slot:0 Compute:7.5 Driver:10.1
17:45:34:OpenCL Device 0: Platform:0 Device:0 Bus:1 Slot:0 Compute:1.2 Driver:419.17
17:45:34: Win32 Service: false
17:45:34:***********************************************************************
17:45:34:<config>
17:45:34: <!-- Folding Core -->
17:45:34: <checkpoint v='5'/>
17:45:34: <core-priority v='low'/>
17:45:34:
17:45:34: <!-- Folding Slot Configuration -->
17:45:34: <cause v='ALZHEIMERS'/>
17:45:34:
17:45:34: <!-- Network -->
17:45:34: <proxy v=':8080'/>
17:45:34:
17:45:34: <!-- Slot Control -->
17:45:34: <pause-on-battery v='false'/>
17:45:34: <power v='full'/>
17:45:34:
17:45:34: <!-- User Information -->
17:45:34: <passkey v='********************************'/>
17:45:34: <team v='194480'/>
17:45:34: <user v='Farfie'/>
17:45:34:
17:45:34: <!-- Folding Slots -->
17:45:34: <slot id='1' type='GPU'/>
17:45:34:</config>
17:45:34:Trying to access database...
17:45:34:Successfully acquired database lock
17:45:34:Enabled folding slot 01: READY gpu:0:TU104 [GeForce RTX 2080 Rev. A] 10068
17:45:34:WU00:FS01:Starting
17:45:34:WU00:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:\Users\Bryce\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\cores/cores.foldingathome.org/Win32/AMD64/NVIDIA/Fermi/Core_21.fah/FahCore_21.exe -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 705 -lifeline 2144 -checkpoint 5 -gpu-vendor nvidia -opencl-platform 0 -opencl-device 0 -cuda-device 0 -gpu 0
17:45:34:WU00:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 6160
17:45:34:WU00:FS01:Core PID:11904
17:45:34:WU00:FS01:FahCore 0x21 started
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21:*********************** Log Started 2019-03-01T17:45:34Z ***********************
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21:Project: 11719 (Run 0, Clone 2302, Gen 166)
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21:Unit: 0x000000e38ca304e75bbce93e62a2ba84
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21:Machine: 1
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21:Digital signatures verified
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21:Folding@home GPU Core21 Folding@home Core
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21:Version 0.0.18
17:45:35:WU00:FS01:0x21: Found a checkpoint file
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:35:WARNING:FS01:Size of positions 2073 does not match topology 2067
17:45:36:8:127.0.0.1:New Web connection
17:45:39:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 3250000 out of 5000000 steps (65%)
17:45:39:WU00:FS01:0x21:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
17:46:46:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 3300000 out of 5000000 steps (66%)
17:47:55:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 3350000 out of 5000000 steps (67%)
17:49:02:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 3400000 out of 5000000 steps (68%)
The 2080 is "new," but I also haven't folded in quite some time. I've DDU'd twice since installing it (bought it almost the day it was released) months ago, and the drivers are up to date, as are the Windows updates (checked both just now just in case). I have also tried reinstalling the GPU driver and FAH yesterday just in case, with the same results. I could try DDU again if it comes down to it. Until then, I'll take whatever else ideas you have, and thank you very much for your time.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:09 pm
by bollix47
According to the log you posted the TPF should result in a PPD of ~1.5 million and from what I've seen in these forums that sounds correct. If your passkey is qualified (at least 10 completed using it and an 80% success rate) then you should average 1.5 million points a day as long as you're running 24/7.
p.s. the usage you're seeing is the CPU that's being used to support the GPU ... get something like gpu-z to see more info for the GPU.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:20 pm
by Farfie
Right, I get the ppd now, but none of the posts about folding performance on the 2080 I find are particularly recent, and why is no one talking about how little of the GPU is being used? Again, I can game with this going and I'd prefer to get it so it's using more if not all of the GPU if possible.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:24 pm
by bollix47
It is or it wouldn't be earning 1.5M PPD ... see the p.s. in my last post.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:50 pm
by Farfie
Ah I see, okay. GPU-Z is reporting 83-84% usage, makes a million times more sense than windows task manager's usage. And if you mean the CPU column in the task manager, no, I mean GPU. Windows 10 implemented (although poorly apparently) a GPU utilization column as well as CPU. Seems to report usage on games accurately at least...
Unless that's not what you meant. Either way, I really appreciate the help. Everything seems to be fine. I was being misled by Windows!
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:25 pm
by bollix47
The 1.3% usage you're seeing under GPU is the CPU usage that the FahCore_21 is using to keep the GPU happy ... it is not GPU usage.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:29 am
by bruce
If you want to fold with the remaining 78% of your CPU resources, you can add a CPU slot. (A second WU will be folded independently.)
The CPU would provide much less resources compared to the GPU and in the worst case, might even slow down FAHCore_21. I recommend you do not allocate less than 100% of the remaining CPU cores. The choice is entirely up to you.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:50 am
by Calibrator
I've had this issue over the years. I believe it's related to the Nvidia driver. I'm currently experiencing underperformance with my two 1080 Ti's. I just installed the latest Nvidia driver 419.17. I normally produce around 2,000,000 points per day. With the latest Nvidia driver, I'm only getting 800,000 points per day. I'm going to rollback to the previous Nvidia driver.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:36 pm
by MeeLee
Calibrator wrote:I've had this issue over the years. I believe it's related to the Nvidia driver. I'm currently experiencing underperformance with my two 1080 Ti's. I just installed the latest Nvidia driver 419.17. I normally produce around 2,000,000 points per day. With the latest Nvidia driver, I'm only getting 800,000 points per day. I'm going to rollback to the previous Nvidia driver.
Points can depend on projects. Some projects only use a fraction of your card's performance.
Just wait a few WUs, until another project is assigned.
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:00 pm
by toTOW
Farfie wrote:Ah I see, okay. GPU-Z is reporting 83-84% usage, makes a million times more sense than windows task manager's usage. And if you mean the CPU column in the task manager, no, I mean GPU. Windows 10 implemented (although poorly apparently) a GPU utilization column as well as CPU. Seems to report usage on games accurately at least...
Unless that's not what you meant. Either way, I really appreciate the help. Everything seems to be fine. I was being misled by Windows!
Don't trust Windows Task Manager to report accurate GPU load : by default it reports 3D/graphics loads (which FAH isn't). You have to manually select "Cuda" to monitor GPGPU loads like FAH.
Or using GPUZ is better ...
Re: RTX 2080 Underperforming
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:37 pm
by Athlonite
Farfie wrote:Ah I see, okay. GPU-Z is reporting 83-84% usage, makes a million times more sense than windows task manager's usage.
In order to have task manager report the GPU usage you need to select one of the field view selectors ie the one that says 3D then select one of the ones that says Compute it'll be either 0 1 or 2 to show actual compute usage because it's not actually a 3D game engine your running when F@H is using OpenCL/Cuda