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List of computers for a user/donor
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:54 pm
by ChrisS
Hi Guys,
I'm a recent newbie recruit from Seti. Over there if I clicked on my user name I could get a list of all the computers assigned to my account. In addition it told me when they last contacted the project. I found that useful to know if a rig had locked up or fallen over. Is there an equivalent function here at FAH?
Many thanks
Re: List of computers for a user/donor
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:11 am
by Joe_H
Welcome to the folding support forum.
The Folding@home client itself does not include that kind of functionality. There are some third party tools such as HFM.net that will allow you to set up monitoring of your computers and the WU's assigned to them.
Re: List of computers for a user/donor
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:37 am
by ChrisS
Many thanks for the prompt reply, I'll give that suggestion a whirl and see what it does. They are all able to be monitored via Team Viewer, but it takes a bit of time to log in all of them with a farm of 7!
I guess that most people run single machines therefore there is no need for that functionality to be provided.
Thanks again.
Re: List of computers for a user/donor
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:29 am
by SteveWillis
ChrisS, I run 3 folding rigs and what I do is run the nomachine.com remote desktop application on all three, with my main pc set up to automatically make the two connections at boot. It takes me less than a minute to check the status of my other two machines. It's free and easy to set up. Slightly harder to set up if the remote machines are outside your local network but still doable. It even lets me easily check my rigs using a laptop when I'm out of town. If using an unknown WiFi at a hotel or such I recommend using a VPN on the laptop. Unfortunately they still don't have a version for cellphones but claim to be working on one but I believe they do have one for tablets.
If you happen to be folding on a Linux box, which by the way gives higher points than windows, I have a script that does a client restart or a reboot as needed to keep all the folding slots working.
Re: List of computers for a user/donor
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:28 pm
by bruce
ChrisS wrote:I guess that most people run single machines therefore there is no need for that functionality to be provided.
I have no way to tell if that's true or not, but I doubt it.
The fundamental design of FAH was about 20 years ago when it was certainly true. There have been some design changes since then, but the main goal is still primarily scientific, and changes such as you're wanting take a much lower priority when development resources are allocated.
While I like HFM, FAHClient has an alternative capability in that you can establish network links to other machines in the
Clients panel on the left of FAHControl's screen. Not only can you monitor activites, you can control those clients so it's designed with a bit more security that is required for a monitoring program.
When either FAH or HFM counts clients, they really counts slots, which represents the number of active WUs you are running, even though there may be one slot running on each of your GPUs plus one or more running on your CPUs. That happens to match the 20-year old concept of one WU per slot (formerly "clients") even though you're thinking in terms of "machines"
Re: List of computers for a user/donor
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:23 am
by ChrisS
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for your input.
I tried FHM, but 3 rigs are on one router, and 4 on another router at a remote location and it isn't really set up for that. I'll stick to Team viewer to manage them remotely. I'm not into micro-management so every 2 or 3 days is fine. and if one has fallen over or locked up, or didn't re-initiate a slot after returning a result then so be it. I'll deal with it at some point.
What I liked at Seti was that I could go to any computer anywhere, even an internet cafe on holiday, login, and see what my rigs were up to. OK, any problems would be dealt with on my return, but I could monitor remotely what was going on.
As you rightly say, the science is the most important thing, not a wish list of "would like to haves".
Getting used to the new terminology here of slots, donors, and clients. I was used to work units and users
Best Regards
Re: List of computers for a user/donor
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:49 am
by ChrisS
Steve,
Apologies I forgot to thank you for your contribution.
Slightly harder to set up if the remote machines are outside your local network but still doable.
Ah yes, see my previous reply. I have a manageable situation I am happy with.