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Low PPD on project 13111

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:41 pm
by RomanValkre
Hello, I am wondering if the low PPD I am seeing whenever I pull a project 13111 WU is normal, or is there something I could be doing to have those units crunch better. The GPU in question is a 7850, and is NOT overclocked below is a snippit of the log so you can see how things are set up. Let me know if anything else would be usefull. Every time I pull this project my PPD takes a nose dive, just wondering if there is a why, or something I can do to mitagate.

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*********************** Log Started 2016-07-22T15:28:57Z ***********************
15:28:57:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
15:28:57:      Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
15:28:57:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2014 Stanford University
15:28:57:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
15:28:57:         Args: 
15:28:57:       Config: C:/Users/Administrator/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/config.xml
15:28:57:******************************** Build ********************************
15:28:57:      Version: 7.4.4
15:28:57:         Date: Mar 4 2014
15:28:57:         Time: 20:26:54
15:28:57:      SVN Rev: 4130
15:28:57:       Branch: fah/trunk/client
15:28:57:     Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1200
15:28:57:      Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /Qdiag-disable:4297,4103,1786,279 /Ox -arch:SSE
15:28:57:               /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qopenmp /Qrestrict /MT /Qmkl
15:28:57:     Platform: win32 XP
15:28:57:         Bits: 32
15:28:57:         Mode: Release
15:28:57:******************************* System ********************************
15:28:57:          CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
15:28:57:       CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3
15:28:57:         CPUs: 8
15:28:57:       Memory: 15.94GiB
15:28:57:  Free Memory: 13.76GiB
15:28:57:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
15:28:57:   OS Version: 6.1
15:28:57:  Has Battery: false
15:28:57:   On Battery: false
15:28:57:   UTC Offset: -4
15:28:57:          PID: 7208
15:28:57:          CWD: C:/Users/Administrator/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient
15:28:57:           OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
15:28:57:      OS Arch: AMD64
15:28:57:         GPUs: 2
15:28:57:        GPU 0: ATI:5 Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7800 Series]
15:28:57:        GPU 1: NVIDIA:5 GM204 [GeForce GTX 970]
15:28:57:         CUDA: 5.2
15:28:57:  CUDA Driver: 8000
15:28:57:Win32 Service: false
15:28:57:***********************************************************************
15:28:57:<config>
15:28:57:  <!-- Slot Control -->
15:28:57:  <power v='FULL'/>
15:28:57:
15:28:57:  <!-- User Information -->
15:28:57:  <passkey v='********************************'/>
15:28:57:  <team v='225819'/>
15:28:57:  <user v='RomanValkre'/>
15:28:57:
15:28:57:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
15:28:57:  <slot id='0' type='CPU'/>
15:28:57:  <slot id='1' type='GPU'/>
15:28:57:  <slot id='2' type='GPU'/>
15:28:57:</config>
15:28:57:Trying to access database...
15:28:57:Successfully acquired database lock
15:28:57:Enabled folding slot 00: READY cpu:6
15:28:57:Enabled folding slot 01: READY gpu:0:Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7800 Series]
15:28:57:Enabled folding slot 02: READY gpu:1:GM204 [GeForce GTX 970]
15:28:57:WU03:FS01:Sending unit results: id:03 state:SEND error:NO_ERROR project:9441 run:37 clone:1 gen:346 core:0x21 unit:0x0000019dab436c9d56af1b2b34e04751
15:28:57:WU03:FS01:Uploading 25.29MiB to 171.67.108.157
15:28:57:WU03:FS01:Connecting to 171.67.108.157:8080
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:Starting
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Administrator/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/NVIDIA/Fermi/Core_21.fah/FahCore_21.exe -dir 02 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 7208 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 1 -gpu-vendor nvidia
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:Started FahCore on PID 7736
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:Core PID:7748
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:FahCore 0x21 started
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:Starting
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Administrator/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 01 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 7208 -checkpoint 15 -np 6
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 7764
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:Core PID:7776
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:FahCore 0xa4 started
15:28:57:WU00:FS01:Starting
15:28:57:WU00:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Administrator/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/ATI/R600/Core_21.fah/FahCore_21.exe -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 7208 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 0 -gpu-vendor ati
15:28:57:WU00:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 7788
15:28:57:WU00:FS01:Core PID:7804
15:28:57:WU00:FS01:FahCore 0x21 started
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:0x21:*********************** Log Started 2016-07-22T15:28:57Z ***********************
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:0x21:Project: 10496 (Run 6, Clone 9, Gen 61)
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:0x21:Unit: 0x000000548ca304f556bba6947f752799
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:0x21:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:0x21:Machine: 2
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:0x21:Digital signatures verified
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:0x21:Folding@home GPU Core21 Folding@home Core
15:28:57:WU02:FS02:0x21:Version 0.0.17
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:0xa4:
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:0xa4:*------------------------------*
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:0xa4:
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
15:28:57:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Ensuring status. Please wait.
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:*********************** Log Started 2016-07-22T15:28:57Z ***********************
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:Project: 13111 (Run 9, Clone 0, Gen 192)
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:Unit: 0x00000068ab436c65577187d68ef34fda
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:Machine: 1
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:Reading tar file core.xml
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:Reading tar file integrator.xml
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:Reading tar file state.xml
15:28:58:WU02:FS02:0x21:  Found a checkpoint file
15:28:58:WU00:FS01:0x21:Reading tar file system.xml
15:28:59:WU00:FS01:0x21:Digital signatures verified
15:28:59:WU00:FS01:0x21:Folding@home GPU Core21 Folding@home Core
15:28:59:WU00:FS01:0x21:Version 0.0.17
15:29:03:WU03:FS01:Upload 11.62%
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Working with standard loops on this execution.
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Previous termination of core was improper.
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Files status OK
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Expanded 1109035 -> 1638720 (decompressed 147.7 percent)
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=1109035 data_size=1638720, decompressed_data_size=1638720 diff=0
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Project: 11658 (Run 655, Clone 0, Gen 33)
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:
15:29:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Entering M.D.
15:29:09:WU03:FS01:Upload 23.97%
15:29:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Using Gromacs checkpoints
15:29:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Mapping NT from 6 to 6 
15:29:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Resuming from checkpoint
15:29:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Verified 01/wudata_01.log
15:29:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Verified 01/wudata_01.trr
15:29:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Verified 01/wudata_01.xtc
15:29:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Verified 01/wudata_01.edr
15:29:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 133020 out of 1250000 steps  (10%)
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15:29:22:WU02:FS02:0x21:Completed 875000 out of 2000000 steps (43%)
15:29:22:WU02:FS02:0x21:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
15:29:27:WU03:FS01:Upload 61.79%
15:29:28:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 0 out of 520000 steps (0%)
15:29:29:WU00:FS01:0x21:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
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15:29:45:WU03:FS01:Upload 99.35%
15:29:45:WU03:FS01:Upload complete
15:29:45:WU03:FS01:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
15:29:45:WU03:FS01:Final credit estimate, 23198.00 points
15:29:45:WU03:FS01:Cleaning up
15:30:12:WU02:FS02:0x21:Completed 880000 out of 2000000 steps (44%)
15:31:16:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 137500 out of 1250000 steps  (11%)
15:33:30:WU02:FS02:0x21:Completed 900000 out of 2000000 steps (45%)

Re: Low PPD on project 13111

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:25 pm
by PS3EdOlkkola
There isn't enough data in the small section of the log you provided for WU00:FS01 to calculate the frame time for p13111. The only reference to the frame time is "15:29:28:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 0 out of 520000 steps (0%)" and you'd need to post the time to get to the next % completion, or ideally let it run through several % steps to get an accurate frame-time reading. Once you have the frame time, you can use the bonus calculator at http://linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php to determine if your GPU is operating within the normal parameters you typically see for PPD performance.

Re: Low PPD on project 13111

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:39 pm
by Serge_Grenier
I noticed that cause of this is high load CPU at other tasks (BOINC, folding on CPU e t.c.) that results to drop GPU load. With all other WUs on my RX480 I not saw this problem. Please, fix it if it's possible.

Re: Low PPD on project 13111

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:12 am
by Joe_H
GPU folding requires that at least one CPU core is free and available to handle processing data being sent to and received from the GPU. Some have reported that some larger projects going to high end GPU's can process faster with more than one CPU core available to be used by the GPU folding core. As one of the larger GPU WU's, it may not be possible to "fix" if you have your CPU cores fully allocated to other tasks.

Re: Low PPD on project 13111

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:05 pm
by Duce H_K_
Actually, p131xx project series do not have a large PPD themselves. They don't consume much GPU resources

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 Project ID: 13111
 Core: OPENMM_21
 Credit: 2905
 Frames: 100

 Name: Palit-970OC1497 Slot 00
 Number of Frames Observed: 200

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:00:57 - 331 986,2 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:00:59 - 315 249,4 PPD
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 Name: Palit-970OC1490 Slot 01
 Number of Frames Observed: 100

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:00:58 - 323 437,4 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:01:00 - 307 401,2 PPD
According to google spreadsheet a 7850 provides only 48KPPD on p13001. Currently I cannot find info about how fast or slow p13111 crunches with other cards
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