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Exchanging one Project for Another

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:10 pm
by Jerkynerd
Howdy!

My CPU is kinda slow (Dual-Core, 2.1GHz), but I just finished my first project, which is pretty cool.

When I got my second project, 8581, it said that I had 13 days or something to complete it. However, it averaged that it would take my computer about 15 days to complete it. Because I won't have my computer on all night to make it in those 15 days, and because 15 is greater than 13, I think that the chances of me getting this done on time are pretty slim.

All of that considered, if a project is not completed in time, does it get re-scheduled to someone else, and you get another (and you lose all of your progress)? Or, do you get to finish it, with some penalty to your points, or without the results getting submitted, or something else? If you know you won't have a project done in time, can you somehow end your work on that project, and then start work on a new project? Should the application realize all of this, and not give me such a large project/low deadline in the first place to someone with a basic computer? I just don't want to have my computer working on something, knowing that all of its progress will be lost when it cannot achieve the goal it needs to.

Re: Exchanging one Project for Another

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:41 pm
by bruce
1) Unless the new project had been running for a few hours, the estimated completion time cannot be trusted. Before that, you can use the PPD Calculator in the 3rd party forum once you subtract the time difference between 0% and 1%.

2) Once you have a frame time multiply by 100 to get the real duration (and an ETA).

3) For more information on the project, look up the project number in the "Project Summary" (See link in our page headers).

Re: Exchanging one Project for Another

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:11 pm
by ChristianVirtual
You might consider to utilize the NaCL/Google Chrome native client. Which has muuuuch smaller WU. I run that one some times on an old Mac Mini. Each WU maybe an hour ... Easy to finish.
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Re: Exchanging one Project for Another

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:29 pm
by billford
Like Bruce and Christian have said, but: is the "Folding Power" slider set to "Full"? Otherwise it will only be using one core and will be slow.

Jerkynerd wrote: All of that considered, if a project is not completed in time, does it get re-scheduled to someone else, and you get another (and you lose all of your progress)? Or, do you get to finish it, with some penalty to your points, or without the results getting submitted, or something else?
As I understand it, if the WU is not returned by the preferred deadline it will be re-issued to someone else. If you then return it before the final deadline you'll get the base points but no quick return bonus (which you don't qualify for yet anyway). After the final deadline- tough, no points.
If you know you won't have a project done in time, can you somehow end your work on that project, and then start work on a new project?
Yes, but only as a last resort.
Should the application realize all of this, and not give me such a large project/low deadline in the first place to someone with a basic computer? I just don't want to have my computer working on something, knowing that all of its progress will be lost when it cannot achieve the goal it needs to.
That's not a question I can answer :(

Re: Exchanging one Project for Another

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:41 am
by Jerkynerd
Thanks! Y'all are incredibly helpful. :)

Re: Exchanging one Project for Another

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:52 am
by bruce
Should the application realize all of this, and not give me such a large project/low deadline in the first place to someone with a basic computer? I just don't want to have my computer working on something, knowing that all of its progress will be lost when it cannot achieve the goal it needs to.
The software doesn't do that. It has been suggested before, but it's my imporession that this is way down Stanford's priority list. Development work is currently devoted to other changes and as has alreadyb been said, the Chrome (NaCl) client seems to solve the same issue by making all WUs much shorter. Behind that development effort is something called the ocore (an early version of which is is currently being tested) and it solves the problem in another very different way.