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The US Federal government is in the process of shutting down all non-essential work, including medical research...

Does F@H receive much federal funding (either directly or indirectly) and will the temporary withdrawal of any funding result in disruption to its research?

I was not aware that medical research was affected, that's surprising.
I suspect that F@h would not be affected. I would guess that grants/funding are given out in batches, rather than a steady stream. But I don't know for sure, obviously.

Obviously no new grants will be coming, but existing monies are already a done deal. The idiots in Washington won't slow fah down.

7im wrote: . . . The idiots in Washington . . .

These are not the only one´s i know - and these will be not the latest one´s

According to http://folding.stanford.edu/home/donate/ they receive a 'considerable' amount of federal funding, for example from the NSF.

The NSF has frozen all payments (except in an imminent threat to life or property) and applications, including those from previously awarded programs, so even awarded programs may be influenced as many awards aren't lump-sum at start, but smaller sums spread over the life of the award...

This could mean, for example, that some of the stipends for grad students become frozen...

Right. But if the shutdown lasts past the 17th, we will have much bigger problems to worry about. And even those WA DC idiots aren't that stupid, at least not enough to not pass that important vote.

So then it's only a small delay in an otherwise normal payment schedule.

7im wrote:And even those WA DC idiots aren't that stupid, at least not enough to not pass that important vote.

As a Brit I hesitate to comment on US politics (in a primarily US forum anyway) but on the whole politicians are politicians, so my thought when I read that was simply "You hope..."

I follow politics more closely than the average person. My only hope is they don't wait until the last minute to pass it which just makes the uncertainty worse. But that's likely the way it will go.

And finally when they found a solution everyone will claim himself as the winner - notwithstanding that everyone has lost something - his credibility . . .

folding_hoomer wrote:And finally when they found a solution everyone will claim himself as the winner - notwithstanding that everyone has lost something - his credibility . . .

That is laughable, We the American voting public are at fault not the politicians, (Credibility) what is that, lets see Credibility = (I smoked pot but did not inhale) Credibility = (I did not have sex with that woman)

Results of lack of credibility = re-election to the White house, absolutely no one has a right to gripe about their lack of ability to do their job, we the people are the ones that have created the atmosphere.
We have told our politicians that they are above moral, ethical and responsibility standards we have told them they have better odds of being reelected if they lie or do nothing to rock the boat.

What do you expect?

7im wrote:I follow politics more closely than the average person. My only hope is they don't wait until the last minute to pass it which just makes the uncertainty worse. But that's likely the way it will go.

While grants are awarded in batches, I have no idea whether FAH's payments are delivered as progress payments or in batches. Obviously progress payments will be delayed (suspended temporarily) already. If the whole government goes into default, things will obviously get worse.

I'm closing this topic.

Personally, I like a good political debate, but this is a FAH help forum, not a political site. The original question: Will the shutdown affect FAH was on-topic and was answered. The rest of the topic doesn't belong here. At the rate we're going, pretty soon somebody is going to start saying "their party" is doing the right thing and "the other party" is totally wrong -- and that debate has no ending point.