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Posted: **Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:47 pm**

when running fah, my computer will just flat out turn off as if someone pulled the plug. i tried only running cpu and only running gpu to rule each out but either one results the same. cant get the computer to crash any other time even with stress tests. Only f@h. Any thoughts?

Posted: **Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:02 pm**

Hi Brandon and welcome to the folding@home support forum.

Please describe your hardware and the operating system you are using.

Posted: **Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:09 pm**

Sure thing,
I am running a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 motherboard,
AMD FX-8120 Processor,
Corsair 8Gb DDR3 1866 Memory,
EVGA GTX460 1GB SC@ 867Mhz Video Card,
and a 630w power supply

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Posted: **Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:13 pm**

Click on Start>All Programs>FAHClient>Data Directory

There should be a file called log.txt or just log if you don't have extensions turned on.

Right click on that file and open with WordPad. Copy/paste the contents to a post here between code tags(available in Full Editor).

Posted: **Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:24 pm**

My first thought is that your computer is unable to sufficiently cool itself, and the motherboard is smart enough to detect this and kills the power to protect the components. This results in an instant shutdown, just as you are describing. Could be something else, but I'm thinking that is what is happening. This would make the most sense if it only occurred when both the CPU and the GPU were running full tilt, so I'm slightly puzzled because you ran only one of them at a time and still experienced the shutdown.

You can monitor your hardware temperatures using a program like Speccy.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:05 am**

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*********************** Log Started 2013-01-10T19:52:27Z ***********************
19:52:27:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
19:52:27:      Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
19:52:27:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2012 Stanford University
19:52:27:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
19:52:27:         Args: --lifeline 5412 --command-port=36330
19:52:27:       Config: C:/ProgramData/FAHClient/config.xml
19:52:27:******************************** Build ********************************
19:52:27:      Version: 7.2.9
19:52:27:         Date: Oct 3 2012
19:52:27:         Time: 18:05:48
19:52:27:      SVN Rev: 3578
19:52:27:       Branch: fah/trunk/client
19:52:27:     Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1200
19:52:27:      Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /Qdiag-disable:4297,4103,1786,279 /Ox -arch:SSE
19:52:27:               /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qopenmp /Qrestrict /MT /Qmkl
19:52:27:     Platform: win32 XP
19:52:27:         Bits: 32
19:52:27:         Mode: Release
19:52:27:******************************* System ********************************
19:52:27:          CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor
19:52:27:       CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 21 Model 1 Stepping 2
19:52:27:         CPUs: 8
19:52:27:       Memory: 7.98GiB
19:52:27:  Free Memory: 5.79GiB
19:52:27:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
19:52:27:   On Battery: false
19:52:27:   UTC offset: -5
19:52:27:          PID: 3824
19:52:27:          CWD: C:/ProgramData/FAHClient
19:52:27:           OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
19:52:27:      OS Arch: AMD64
19:52:27:         GPUs: 1
19:52:27:        GPU 0: NVIDIA:2 GF114 [GeForce GTX 460 v2]
19:52:27:         CUDA: 2.1
19:52:27:  CUDA Driver: 5000
19:52:27:Win32 Service: false
19:52:27:***********************************************************************
19:52:27:<config>
19:52:27:  <!-- Folding Slot Configuration -->
19:52:27:  <gpu v='true'/>
19:52:27:
19:52:27:  <!-- User Information -->
19:52:27:  <passkey v='********************************'/>
19:52:27:  <team v='70598'/>
19:52:27:  <user v='brandonveiga'/>
19:52:27:
19:52:27:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
19:52:27:</config>
19:52:27:Trying to access database...
19:52:27:Successfully acquired database lock
19:52:27:Enabled folding slot 00: READY gpu:0:"GF114 [GeForce GTX 460 v2]"
19:52:27:Enabled folding slot 01: READY smp:8
19:52:27:WU03:FS01:Starting
19:52:27:WU03:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/ProgramData/FAHClient/cores/www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 03 -suffix 01 -version 702 -lifeline 3824 -checkpoint 15 -np 8
19:52:27:WU03:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 5216
19:52:27:WU03:FS01:Core PID:1000
19:52:27:WU03:FS01:FahCore 0xa4 started
19:52:27:WU02:FS00:Starting
19:52:27:WU02:FS00:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/ProgramData/FAHClient/cores/www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/NVIDIA/Fermi/Core_15.fah/FahCore_15.exe -dir 02 -suffix 01 -version 702 -lifeline 3824 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 0
19:52:27:WU02:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 1904
19:52:27:WU02:FS00:Core PID:3280
19:52:27:WU02:FS00:FahCore 0x15 started
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:*------------------------------*
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:- Files status OK
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:- Expanded 2054453 -> 5365960 (decompressed 261.1 percent)
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=2054453 data_size=5365960, decompressed_data_size=5365960 diff=0
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:*------------------------------*
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Project: 7808 (Run 9, Clone 464, Gen 13)
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:Folding@Home GPU Core
19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:
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19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Assembly optimizations on if available.
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19:52:28:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Entering M.D.
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19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:Window's signal control handler registered.
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:Preparing to commence simulation
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:- Looking at optimizations...
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:- Files status OK
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:sizeof(CORE_PACKET_HDR) = 512 file=<>
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:- Expanded 126004 -> 507182 (decompressed 402.5 percent)
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=126004 data_size=507182, decompressed_data_size=507182 diff=0
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:- Digital signature verified
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:Project: 7624 (Run 75, Clone 3, Gen 25)
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:Assembly optimizations on if available.
19:52:28:WU02:FS00:0x15:Entering M.D.
19:52:29:WU02:FS00:0x15:Will resume from checkpoint file 02/wudata_01.ckp
19:52:29:WU02:FS00:0x15:Tpr hash 02/wudata_01.tpr:  1158201233 2037070612 1869447936 337385961 560020370
19:52:29:WU02:FS00:0x15:GPU device id=0
19:52:29:WU02:FS00:0x15:Working on Protein
19:52:29:WU02:FS00:0x15:Client config unavailable.
19:52:30:WU02:FS00:0x15:Starting GUI Server
19:52:30:Server connection id=1 on 0.0.0.0:36330 from 127.0.0.1
19:52:34:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Mapping NT from 8 to 8 
19:52:34:WU03:FS01:0xa4:Completed 0 out of 1500000 steps  (0%)
19:52:37:FS00:Paused
19:52:37:FS01:Paused
19:52:37:FS00:Shutting core down
19:52:37:FS01:Shutting core down
19:52:37:WU02:FS00:0x15:Client no longer detected. Shutting down core 
19:52:37:WU02:FS00:0x15:
19:52:37:WU02:FS00:0x15:Folding@home Core Shutdown: CLIENT_DIED
19:52:38:WU02:FS00:FahCore returned: INTERRUPTED (102 = 0x66)
19:52:38:WU03:FS01:FahCore returned: INTERRUPTED (102 = 0x66)
22:43:59:Lost lifeline PID 5412, exiting
22:44:00:Clean exit

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:31 am**

Cooling or Power with the odds with not having enough power. A 630W power supply should be able to handle it all but some PS's are just plain crappy; It may be failing; or perhaps you are overloading a single rail.

Monitor the temps of both your CPU and video card, until you can exclude that possibility because that is free and could be a cause. It is also typically cheaper to replace fan(s) than a power supply.

I like real temp for CPU temperature monitoring and either EVGA Precision or MSI Afterburner for video card temps. Setup to monitor either by log or systray.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:18 am**

Checked max rated temp for the card, which is 104c. The card temp doesn't go above 82c while folding full throttle. (no cpu/smp folding) and i still get the crash.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:47 am**

BrandonVeiga wrote:Checked max rated temp for the card, which is 104c. The card temp doesn't go above 82c while folding full throttle. (no cpu/smp folding) and i still get the crash.

82C is quite high, even though it is below the max rated temp. This will have adverse effects on the lifetime of your GPU, as is described here:

art_l_j_PlanetAMD64 wrote:Ever since my EVGA GTX285 card failed, I have run all of the fan controls manually, resulting in impressive temperature drops across all of my GPUs.
EVGA's "Auto" fan control was particularly bad, resulting in GPU temperatures from 85C to 95C. Switching the same EVGA card to Manual and setting the fan speed to maximum, resulted in 20C to 30C drops in temperature. So even though the card had a very well-designed cooling system, the Auto control had the temperature up to card-killing levels. I mentioned this fact to EVGA when I was getting them to replace (free of charge under warranty) my GTX285 card that had failed.
The rule-of-thumb often used is that MTBF will halve for each 10C rise in temperature.

I keep all of my GPUs running below 65C, even the ones that get the "hardest" WUs (762x). I would recommend improving the cooling (increase fan speed, improve the airflow path as much as possible) in order to increase the lifetime of your GPU. Only increase the fan speed enough to get the temp down to a reasonable value, say below 70C. Running the fan speed too high will reduce the lifetime of the fan. It's a balancing act to get the best overall result.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:15 pm**

Ok so I managed to downclock my video card from 867Mhz to 650Mhz and from 1v to .912v I also throttled F@h back to 90% GPU usage. I let it run overnight and so far it's stable at 74C, but I think that's the best i'm going to get with my older case which doesn't circulate air too well, and stock coolers on my CPU and GPU. Still concerned that only running CPU by itself at 50% is causing a crash through because I'm pretty sure it's impossible for it to be overheating at that rate. I guess next step is to monitor CPU temp during SMP folding, no GPU and see what happens. I ran f@h on my last rig with a Quad core Phenom and an 8600GT at about 92C and it never crashed. That could only mean one of two possibilities. Either something is wrong with the client, or my last computer was set to emergency shutdown at a much higher temperature than my current computer. Thoughts?

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:06 pm**

BrandonVeiga wrote:I guess next step is to monitor CPU temp during SMP folding, no GPU and see what happens. I ran f@h on my last rig with a Quad core Phenom and an 8600GT at about 92C and it never crashed. That could only mean one of two possibilities. Either something is wrong with the client, or my last computer was set to emergency shutdown at a much higher temperature than my current computer. Thoughts?

The temperature thing was more about preventing your GPU (or CPU) from dying an early death, although elevated temps can cause memory or other faults that can crash a system.

A good temperature (and other things) monitoring program is Speccy:
Speccy - Download

The maximum temperature for an AMD Phenom II is 62C, and it's not recommended to be above 55C for stability. Other processors have different limits, so check on the values for the processor in your current system. Good luck on fixing your problem!

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:48 am**

What make and model is that PSU??

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:45 pm**

BrandonVeiga wrote:I am running a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 motherboard,
AMD FX-8120 Processor

The spec sheet on your processor:
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCP ... spx?id=771
shows a maximum temperature of 61C, so for stability you probably want to stay below 54C.

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:46 pm**

PSU is a Raidmax RX-630SS

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:53 pm**

BrandonVeiga wrote:PSU is a Raidmax RX-630SS

Thats the problem, that psu is not that good. Before you kill any of your hardware I would recommend you go and buy a decent 550w-650w supply from Seasonic, corsair, enermax or Antec

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