Page 1 of 1
					
				Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:49 pm
				by devpao
				I am having issues with a HD6670 
while SMP works as expected the last GPU related log message is "completed 3 out of ...." and GPU load is 0%
installed 7.1.52 and catalyst 11.10 can't use latest catalyst driver because is not supporting OpenCL on winXP
May it happen to have no cpu available to feed the GPU? or the client manage the issue?
09:14:43:******************************* System ********************************
09:14:43: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
09:14:43: CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 15 Model 75 Stepping 2
09:14:43: CPUs: 2
09:14:43: Memory: 2.00GiB
09:14:43: Free Memory: 1.34GiB
09:14:43: Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
09:14:43: On Battery: false
09:14:43: UTC offset: 2
09:14:43: PID: 2908
09:14:43: CWD: C:/FAHClient
09:14:43: OS: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3
09:14:43: OS Arch: X86
09:14:43: GPUs: 1
09:14:43: GPU 0: ATI:4 NI Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600 Series]
09:14:43: CUDA: Not detected
09:14:43:Win32 Service: false
09:14:43:***********************************************************************
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and v7.1.52 FAH Client
				Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:55 am
				by devpao
				A situation update, now there is some trace of activity for both CPU and GPU but with CPU ETA 25 days and GPU ETA 48 days and estimated ppd 61
Before having the GPU working ppd with CPU alone was between 600 and 1000 depending on WU.
Any hint? other then putting the gpu offline?
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and v7.1.52 FAH Client
				Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:27 am
				by devpao
				Suspending the SMP slot leaves the dual core CPU load at 100%, pausing the GPU too the CPU usage goes near to zero.
Leaving paused the GPU slot makes the ppd estimate to rise to a normal value between 600 and 1000.
Installed 11.10 to have OpenCL support and 12.3 to have latest drivers so current catalyst version details are the following
Driver Packaging Version	8.951-120308a-135748C-ATI	
Catalystâ„¢ Version	12.3	
Provider	AMD.	
2D Driver Version	6.14.10.7256	
2D Driver File Path	System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Video/{DC9D7149-DC99-46A6-AFD7-525699F9C6FC}/0000	
Direct3D Version	6.14.10.0894	
OpenGL Version	6.14.10.11566	
Catalystâ„¢ Control Center Version	2012.0308.2333.42157	
AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version	6.14.10.6238	
AIW/VIVO WDM SP Driver Version	6.14.10.6238	
Primary Adapter		
Graphics Card Manufacturer	Powered by AMD	
Graphics Chipset	AMD Radeon HD 6670	
Device ID	6758	
Vendor	1002	
Subsystem ID	2309	
Subsystem Vendor ID	1787	
Graphics Bus Capability	PCI Express 2.0	
Maximum Bus Setting	PCI Express 2.0 x16		
BIOS Version	013.012.000.016	
BIOS Part Number	113-930-930	
BIOS Date	2011/04/25
Memory Size	1024 MB	
Memory Type	DDR3		
Core Clock in MHz	800 MHz	
Memory Clock in MHz	667 MHz	
Total Memory Bandwidth in GByte/s	21,3 GByte/s
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and v7.1.52 FAH Client
				Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:24 pm
				by bruce
				devpao wrote:Suspending the SMP slot leaves the dual core CPU load at 100%, pausing the GPU too the CPU usage goes near to zero.
Leaving paused the GPU slot makes the ppd estimate to rise to a normal value between 600 and 1000.
Using the Windows Task Manager, click the Processes tab.  Then click on the CPU column header once or twice until the non-zero values rise to the top.  What are the names of the processes that are consuming that 100%?
It should be noted that for Windows XP, AMD has dropped support for OpenCL in their drivers and the HD 5xxx Series and above REQUIRE OpenCL.  That's another way of saying you need Vista or Win7 to run that GPU.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:10 am
				by devpao
				first three are
fahcore_16 88%
fahcontrol   7%
idle            4%
if I leave both slots active and I set affinity for fahcore_16 then the other core is able to run but fahcore_16 is still not progressing
All current topics about AMD/ATI drivers are about recent GPU on XP systems, if is forbidden forbid it
XP has general support for another two years and a new GPU  was supposed to be a good  easy way to give new life to an oldish pc
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:39 am
				by devpao
				recovered the use of gpu for folding by removing all the newest driver and installing a 11.12 version gathered from a random site (11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe)
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:20 am
				by bruce
				devpao wrote:XP has general support for another two years and a new GPU  was supposed to be a good  easy way to give new life to an oldish pc
That depends on your definition of support.  My understanding is that Windows XP has been moved from Mainstream Support to the Extended Support phase. During the Extended Support Phase, Microsoft will continue to provide security updates every month for Windows XP; however, free technical support, warranty claims, and design changes are no longer being offered.  If there's an OS-related bug in OpenCL, it's considered a design change and they won't fix it unless it's actually a security risk, too.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:53 am
				by 7im
				Most products support current version, and one back. Soon that will be win 8 and win 7.  Anything more than that is typically "best effort.".  Caveat Folder.
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:37 am
				by devpao
				Is probably wise with these conditions to block a known unpredictable condition, FAHclient with AMD GPU on XP and driver newer then 11.12 should not try to run FAHCore_16
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:49 pm
				by bruce
				devpao wrote:Is probably wise with these conditions to block a known unpredictable condition, FAHclient with AMD GPU on XP and driver newer then 11.12 should not try to run FAHCore_16
That's not an unreasonable idea, but FAHClient cannot be tweaked for every change in drivers/OS/Hardware.  At some point the Donor needs to take some responsibility to make sure it's installed correctly.  Given the number of both bug tickets that need to be fixed and enhancement requests that are good ideas but may never be fixed due to limitations in resources, I'm not going to write this one up.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:04 am
				by neilrieck
				As others have already mentioned, AMD has dropped OpenCL support for all platforms below Windows-Vista SP2.
http://developer.amd.com/sdks/AMDAPPSDK ... quirements
Since I still have some working Windows-XP systems, I just purchased two nVidea cards (which still support CUDA)
http://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus
(eBay is full of them)
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:01 am
				by bruce
				
Some donors are successfully running HD5xxx/HD6xxx devices on WinXP by using older driver versions.  It's not "supported" but it might work for you. There's a narrow range of driver versions that do work with a narrow range of GPUs - - and there's no guarantee you'll be able to find a combination that works for your hardware.  The right way to do it is to update either your OS or your GPU.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Problems with HD6670 and WinXP and the FAH V7 Client
				Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:17 pm
				by devpao
				Yes, is working with 11.12 version