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No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:11 am
by AlexChaka
I have just noticed all my SMP units sent within last 24 hours (or even more) weren't given a bonus. The client estimations are rather different from what I can see in the statistics.
Why could it be?

Excerpts from the V7 Client log are below:

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00:31:32:WU01:FS01:Sending unit results: id:01 state:SEND error:OK project:7610 run:156 clone:0 gen:71 core:0xa4 unit:0x00000057664f2dd04de6d336d74db624
00:31:39:WU01:FS01:Upload complete
00:31:39:WU01:FS01:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
00:31:39:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 3979.00 points

01:58:47:WU00:FS01:Sending unit results: id:00 state:SEND error:OK project:7600 run:5 clone:46 gen:13 core:0xa4 unit:0x00000036664f2dcd4dee8985ccea9de0
01:58:47:WU00:FS01:Uploading 683.79KiB to 171.64.65.101
01:58:53:WU00:FS01:Upload 56.16%
01:58:54:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Mapping NT from 4 to 4 
01:58:54:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)
01:58:56:WU00:FS01:Upload complete
01:58:56:WU00:FS01:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
01:58:56:WU00:FS01:Final credit estimate, 5024.00 points
The client configuration and system info:

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*********************** Log Started 2012-01-29T19:13:20 ************************
19:13:20:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
19:13:20:      Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
19:13:20:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2012 Stanford University
19:13:20:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
19:13:20:         Args: 
19:13:20:       Config: Z:/Work.Alex/FAHClient/config.xml
19:13:20:******************************** Build ********************************
19:13:20:      Version: 7.1.43
19:13:20:         Date: Jan 2 2012
19:13:20:         Time: 12:33:05
19:13:20:      SVN Rev: 3223
19:13:20:       Branch: fah/trunk/client
19:13:20:     Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1200
19:13:20:      Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /Qdiag-disable:4297,4103,1786,279 /Ox -arch:SSE
19:13:20:               /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qopenmp /Qrestrict /MT
19:13:20:     Platform: win32 XP
19:13:20:         Bits: 32
19:13:20:         Mode: Release
19:13:20:******************************* System ********************************
19:13:20:          CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz
19:13:20:       CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 7
19:13:20:         CPUs: 4
19:13:20:       Memory: 8.00GiB
19:13:20:  Free Memory: 6.86GiB
19:13:20:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
19:13:20:   On Battery: false
19:13:20:   UTC offset: 2
19:13:20:          PID: 2728
19:13:20:          CWD: C:/Windows/system32
19:13:20:           OS: Windows 7 Professional
19:13:20:      OS Arch: AMD64
19:13:20:         GPUs: 1
19:13:20:        GPU 0: ATI:4 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress)
19:13:20:         CUDA: Not detected
19:13:20:Win32 Service: true
19:13:20:***********************************************************************
19:13:20:<config>
19:13:20:  <!-- Folding Slot Configuration -->
19:13:20:  <gpu v='true'/>
19:13:20:
19:13:20:  <!-- Network -->
19:13:20:  <proxy v=':8080'/>
19:13:20:
19:13:20:  <!-- User Information -->
19:13:20:  <passkey v='********************************'/>
19:13:20:  <team v='2164'/>
19:13:20:  <user v='AlexChaka'/>
19:13:20:
19:13:20:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
19:13:20:  <slot id='1' type='SMP'/>
19:13:20:</config>

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:12 am
by PantherX
Welcome to the F@H Forum AlexChaka,

Please note that the point calculation in Beta V7.1.43 isn't correct so please upgrade to the latest Beta version. Moreover, are you already qualified for the bonus points or not?

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:01 am
by AlexChaka
Hello,

Thank you for your concern.
The problem with the bonus points was resolved in the most reliable way: with getting a couple of new passkeys :)

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:33 am
by 7im
A couple? Why so many? What happened to the old one or ones?

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:08 pm
by AlexChaka
7im wrote:What happened to the old one or ones?
I used to use a single passkey for all my rigs, at the time when it all happened I had 3 PCs at folding (2 quads with 1 SMP slot each+ something dual-core running 2 UniProcessor slots).

Having heard from the forum that a problem with bonus points could happen when the success rate drops below 80%, I decided to change passkeys to see if it does any better. I got a passkey for each of my 2 quads and it helped.

Today I've been provided with the following data on my old passkey:
Bonus Finished: 558
Bonus Expired: 397
% finished: 58

Honestly, I don't have the faintest idea how I could have spoiled so many units.

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:47 pm
by patonb
Having a bad overclock will do it.

Go through your logs and find the error #

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:00 pm
by 7im
Please monitor the clients more closely. Every failed workunit slows down the project.

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:54 pm
by AlexChaka
patonb wrote:Having a bad overclock will do it.
Hardly possible, the set-up (Q9450 at 3.2 GHz) has been working 3+ years without any issues. Moreover, the fact that the situation improved after getting a new passkey (nothing was changed in hardware) indirectly proves that...
patonb wrote:Go through your logs and find the error #
No errors which could indicate OC problems (at least last month); earlier logs have died, unfortunately...
7im wrote:please monitor the clients more closely. Every failed workunit slows down the project.
OK, I will...

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:47 pm
by patonb
F@H will wreck the most stabile overclocks. Booting back stock or turn down the oc, is the only way to disprove overclock.

What are your CoreStatus numbrs?

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:15 pm
by bruce
patonb wrote:F@H will wreck the most stabile overclocks.
Wrong. in fact, FAH is just proving that the overclock was NOT stable.

FAH can't wreck an overclock that's stable ... it's just happens to be a more rigorous benchmark than whatever told you (incorrectly) that your overclock was stable.

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:20 pm
by AlexChaka
I have logs available from Feb 12, 2012.
Total amount of 'core exit' events is 166.
  • 149 of them are 0x64 (FINISHED_UNIT)
  • 14 are 0x66 (INTERRUPTED) - it's OK, sometimes I make it paused.
  • 1 is 0x75 (FILE_IO_ERROR)
  • 2 are 0x40010004 (UNKNOWN_ENUM); ('File could not be opened' error, if it is a Win32 error code)
After 0x40010004s cores were restarted, work resumed from a checkpoint, successfully finished and sent.

Re: No bonus for SMP units?

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:43 am
by 7im
That many expired work units means something is going very wrong many times over. If you don't find the problem now, it will simply happen again and again, and you'll keep needing a new passkey, and you will keep slowing down the project.

FAH has gotten really good at improving it's fahcores over time, and they continue to push the hardware more and more. What was once stable can NEVER be assumed to be stable in the future because fah is that good at improving it use of computing resources. And it would be wrong to assume that hardware could not go bad over the course of 3 years, especially when pushing it that hard.

Thank you for watching fah more closely from now on. ;)