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Hidden service

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:12 am
by Stonecold
Is there any way to configure or modify Folding@home so that it runs as a hidden service in the background and cannot be accessed in the system tray? Is there a way to do that or is there some third party program that hides it? Just wondering.

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:14 am
by 7im
Services cannot be hidden, but you can run the client w/ nothing in the tray. Unfortunately, most peopple that ask this questios have nefarious intentions. No offense intended.

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:19 am
by Stonecold
None taken! How do you run the client without the tray icon?

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:29 pm
by toTOW
You need a console client. In configuration, answer yes to the option " Launch automatically, install as a service in this directory (yes/no) [no]?". You might have to answer yes to "Change advanced options (yes/no) [no]?" to get access to the option.

Also, keep in mind that GPU client won't run when installed as service.

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:58 pm
by derrickmcc
toTOW wrote:You need a console client. In configuration, answer yes to the option " Launch automatically, install as a service in this directory (yes/no) [no]?". You might have to answer yes to "Change advanced options (yes/no) [no]?" to get access to the option.

Also, keep in mind that GPU client won't run when installed as service.
GPU client will run as a service on Windows XP, but not on later versions of Windows (Vista, Windows7)

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:03 pm
by MtM
derrickmcc wrote:
toTOW wrote:You need a console client. In configuration, answer yes to the option " Launch automatically, install as a service in this directory (yes/no) [no]?". You might have to answer yes to "Change advanced options (yes/no) [no]?" to get access to the option.

Also, keep in mind that GPU client won't run when installed as service.
GPU client will run as a service on Windows XP, but not on later versions of Windows (Vista, Windows7)
Adding to that, V7 can also run as service if only smp or uniprocessor slots are configured ( xp would enable gpu's as well ).

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:04 pm
by Stonecold
derrickmcc wrote:GPU client will run as a service on Windows XP, but not on later versions of Windows (Vista, Windows7)
Why did they drop that feature?

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:15 pm
by MtM
Not a Stanford design issue, windows xp was the latest which allowed a service direct hardware access. All later versions don't allow it to minimize the possibilities of a security exploit, so if you want to complain do it to Microsoft for trying to make their software less vulnerable to hackers and malware :lol:

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:19 pm
by Stonecold
Is there a way to re-enable it on Windows 7? I'm not worried about hackers, and as for malware I could probably find a way to only allow a specific service/program hardware access. Also, by direct hardware access do you mean low-level hardware access in particular or access to hardware in general?

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:26 pm
by MtM
Nope, it's just no accessible anymore.

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-NVIDIA#ntoc14

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:41 am
by Stonecold
I've found out how to run it as a hidden service. I use the program cmdow (it works great!) with the command-line client.

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:09 pm
by MtM
Stonecold wrote:I've found out how to run it as a hidden service. I use the program cmdow (it works great!) with the command-line client.
Just to be clear as to prevent people from thinking otherwise, it's not a service as you can't run gpu clients under a service. You're probably running some tool which hides the cmd window so you don't see it, but it's not the same as running on as a service. I am happy you found something which does what you wanted to do.

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:21 pm
by Stonecold
MtM wrote:
Stonecold wrote:I've found out how to run it as a hidden service. I use the program cmdow (it works great!) with the command-line client.
Just to be clear as to prevent people from thinking otherwise, it's not a service as you can't run gpu clients under a service. You're probably running some tool which hides the cmd window so you don't see it, but it's not the same as running on as a service. I am happy you found something which does what you wanted to do.
I'm not thinking of the GPU client, only SMP (or uniprocessor).

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:27 pm
by bruce
Stonecold wrote:
MtM wrote:
Stonecold wrote:I've found out how to run it as a hidden service. I use the program cmdow (it works great!) with the command-line client.
Just to be clear as to prevent people from thinking otherwise, it's not a service as you can't run gpu clients under a service. You're probably running some tool which hides the cmd window so you don't see it, but it's not the same as running on as a service. I am happy you found something which does what you wanted to do.
I'm not thinking of the GPU client, only SMP (or uniprocessor).
Then why didn't you use the service provided by FAH? There's no need for an add-on program (though there's really no harm in using it if you choose to). Microsoft's security prohibition against running the GPU in a service is a distinct problem. There are other possible advantages of a Windows service which may or may not apply to you. A Windows service can start before you log on and can remain running if you log out but don't shut down (e.g.- if there are multiple Windows user accounts). It's also one of the possible solutions on systems where Windows Update decides to reboot.

Re: Hidden service

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:31 pm
by Stonecold
bruce wrote:Then why didn't you use the service provided by FAH? There's no need for an add-on program (though there's really no harm in using it if you choose to).
I don't want it to be detected AS a service, but I want it to imitate one (sort of) while still being able to run in the background.