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Hi everyone. Just joined F@H a couple of days ago. Been using both SMP & GPU clients succesfully on my I7 2600K + GTX480.

1.- I Just installed the new beta Client Control to consolidate both clients in there, but the old clients are halfway through. Is there a way to set the Client Control to finish those too? Maybe adding them to the queue?
2.- How do I know the type of unit I'm getting? (bigadv or whatever)
3.- Where can I find my id number? I need it for the extremeoverclocking stats banner, at least I think so

More questions to come Thanks in advanced!

Welcome. I was in your position not too long ago.

1.- I Just installed the new beta Client Control to consolidate both clients in there, but the old clients are halfway through. Is there a way to set the Client Control to finish those too? Maybe adding them to the queue?
2.- How do I know the type of unit I'm getting? (bigadv or whatever)
3.- Where can I find my id number? I need it for the extremeoverclocking stats banner, at least I think so

.1. Set -oneunit flags in your old v6 clients. If you are running the systray v6 GPU client, it's just selecting "Pause with when done" when you right click the systray icon. On the console SMP, you need to stop the client, and restart it with the -oneunit flag

2. You will know if you are getting a "bigadv" SMP WU if you see the base point value of your WU at 8955 (currently). More accurately, look at the Stanford Project summary http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html. The right hand column is K-factor. The Bigadv WUs have a 26.4 factor. Currently. Things could and probably will change in the future.

On your i7 2600k, you will be folding that kind of WU for over two days 24/7. You won't get the SMP bonus points until you've paid your dues and folded successfully 10 SMP work units as a user with passkey. When I first turned on my Sandy Bridge system, I started right out with two -bidadv work units. But, no bonus points. AFter I finished my second, I restarted the SMP client WITHOUT the -bigadv flag, and got the requisite number of smaller SMP WUs quickly. Then, I turned the -bigadv back on.

3. re: Extremeoverclocking banner. You won't show up in their stats for a while, but I think they use their own unique ID number. Being in Team 0, you need about 650K points or so to get into the top 2000 members of Team 0 before they will start tracking you, so you can get a sig. Once you do, your number will show up in the Stats Home/news window on the left. See User: below - I've xxx my own user number.

Stats Home/News
- All Users List
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|- Team: 0
|- Team Summary
|- Team Overtake
|- Team Extra Info
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Donor dazz.
Team Default (includes all those WU returned without valid team number) (0)
Score 17684 (certificate)
Donor Rank 243300 of 1540337
WU 18 (certificate)
Date of last
work unit 2011-04-23 09:09:59

Thanks a lot GW, that was extremely helpful.
Ok, the banner thing is not that important, of course, so that's no problem

I love the Client Control app, I can see it can pause units now, and has a very nice GUI. I will finish those pending WU with the -oneunit argument and will then uninstall the old clients.

Did I get it right from the user guide and I need to edit my config.xml now to set the memory to 8192MB and to add the -bigadv arg too? but it's better to wait until I complete 10 regular WU before I start running bigadv?

Another question please: is there somewhere I can check my WU history? what WU's I've runned, points earned for each WU, bonus credited, client used, etc..

EDIT: ok, I can see now the slot's config can be set from the client control itself. Memory set to 8GB now (I guess it only makes sense in the SMP slot)

Please post the ****System*** section at the top of your log. Your RAM should be detected automatically.

It will be faster to complete 10 bonus WUs if they're regular ones rather than bigadv.

Sorry, but the ability to check your WU history is still on the "Wish list" behind a lot of more critical issues.

bruce wrote:Please post the ****System*** section at the top of your log. Your RAM should be detected automatically.

Oh, true. It is indeed detected: 7.98GiB, 6.41GiB free... removing argument now
The working set of the current WU is just 100MB, I guess it's because the project Kfactor is only 2.10?

bruce wrote:It will be faster to complete 10 bonus WUs if they're regular ones rather than bigadv.

ok thanks.
I will set it to bigadv after the 10th WU then. It's done setting the SMP slot with a 'max-packet-size' param with a 'big' value right?

bruce wrote:Sorry, but the ability to check your WU history is still on the "Wish list" behind a lot of more critical issues.

No need to apologise, I completely understand that's not so important. Thanks a lot to you too Bruce

dazz. wrote:Oh, true. It is indeed detected: 7.98GiB, 6.41GiB free... removing argument now
The working set of the current WU is just 100MB, I guess it's because the project Kfactor is only 2.10?

Nope, the Kfactor only affects the points received for the WU, or at least AFAIK. The Ram Usage is just determined by what the WU needs.

dazz. wrote: ok thanks.
I will set it to bigadv after the 10th WU then. It's done setting the SMP slot with a 'max-packet-size' param with a 'big' value right?

Nope again, this depends on what client you are running. For the v6 client you just want to add -bigadv to the flags, (just like you did with -smp).
So you should end up with at least -smp -bigadv as flags.
For the v7 Beta client it is a different story.

If you are running the v7, you should edit the slot and select/type (at the Expert only option, client-type bigadv)

OEOTS wrote:

dazz. wrote:Oh, true. It is indeed detected: 7.98GiB, 6.41GiB free... removing argument now
The working set of the current WU is just 100MB, I guess it's because the project Kfactor is only 2.10?

Nope, the Kfactor only affects the points received for the WU, or at least AFAIK. The Ram Usage is just determined by what the WU needs.

dazz. wrote: ok thanks.
I will set it to bigadv after the 10th WU then. It's done setting the SMP slot with a 'max-packet-size' param with a 'big' value right?

Nope again, this depends on what client you are running. For the v6 client you just want to add -bigadv to the flags, (just like you did with -smp).
So you should end up with at least -smp -bigadv as flags.
For the v7 Beta client it is a different story.

If you are running the v7, you should edit the slot and select/type (at the Expert only option, client-type bigadv)

Crystal clear! you guys are great. Thanks so much

dazz., do you have a passkey? SMP bonus points requires one.

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-passkey

Amaruk wrote:dazz., do you have a passkey? SMP bonus points requires one.

Yes I do, thanks for the HU the first two or three WU I run completed without a passkey, then I came across that FAQ and got me one. I still need to do a lot of reading here in the forums and in the FAQ sections of the web obviously hehe.

BTW, the -bigadv thing, should I set that for both the SMP and the GPU slots please?

nope, only for the SMP.

for the GPU's there are only the regular and the advmethods WU's

bigadv is only for SMP at this time.

Can relate to reading up on the project, I've been folding for over three years now and I still learn something new all the time.

Happy folding!

~edit~

DOH! ninja'd

haha, ok guys. thanks once again

Again, re: the -bigadv and "paying your dues". Until you complete TEN good SMP WUs after your passkey is in, you don't want to set -bigadv, unless you want to spend 2+ days on each WU getting only 8955 points with no bonus. If you do set the flag, and if the Stanford Server thinks your system has the right SMP horsepower, you will probably get the -bigadv WUs.

See the second post on this page.

GreyWhiskers wrote:Again, re: the -bigadv and "paying your dues". Until you complete TEN good SMP WUs after your passkey is in, you don't want to set -bigadv, unless you want to spend 2+ days on each WU getting only 8955 points with no bonus. If you do set the flag, and if the Stanford Server thinks your system has the right SMP horsepower, you will probably get the -bigadv WUs.

I know, I know, or at least I think so: the idea is to complete 10 "lite" SMP WU's, get the bonus, and then set the SMP slot to -bigadv so that I increase the chances of being assigned a large WU.
I'm reading on -advmethods ATM

dazz. wrote:I know, I know, or at least I think so: . . .

I think it was Amaruk that failed to read what had already been posted in the topic, not you.