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GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:41 am
by xxlawman87xx
I am folding on a GTX480, a standard 9800GT and an Energy Efficient 9800GT. I can start all three clients just fine. However, after about 5-15 minutes it causes my computer to freeze completely, requiring a reboot. This is with everything at stock speeds. I can run any single card individually with no problem, but shortly after I run them all it freezes. Suggestions? BTW, I am running the newest systray client. 6.40 i think.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:51 am
by PantherX
My guess would be that the PSU is being overloaded so can you give us your hardware details? Also, can you please provide us a copy of your FAHlogs (viewtopic.php?p=160884#p160884) so we can see if there is any error and how you have setup the Clients.
BTW, when you say "freeze" do you mean:
A) Desktop lagging i.e. when you move your mouse, it takes a significant time for it to move on the screen
B) The system will not respond at all? If that's the case, can you see your HDD LED blinking, continuously lit or not lit at all?
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:06 am
by xxlawman87xx
I have a 1000w psu with a Q9550 stock so PSU should not be a problem
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--- Opening Log file [February 5 04:49:41 UTC]
# Windows GPU Systray Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.41r2
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\Thomas\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpu3
Arguments: -gpu 2 -forcegpu nvidia_g80
[04:49:41] Gpu type=2 species=11.
[04:50:09] - Ask before connecting: No
[04:50:09] - User name: xxlawman87xx (Team 37726)
[04:50:09] - User ID: 72D8AF53120D9092
[04:50:09] - Machine ID: 4
[04:50:09]
[04:50:09] Work directory not found. Creating...
[04:50:09] Could not open work queue, generating new queue...
[04:50:09] Initialization complete
[04:50:09] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[04:50:09] Cleaning up work directory
[04:50:09] + Attempting to get work packet
[04:50:09] Gpu type=2 species=11.
[04:50:09] - Connecting to assignment server
[04:50:09] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.61).
[04:50:09] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[04:50:10] Loaded queue successfully.
[04:50:10] Gpu type=2 species=11.
[04:50:11] + Closed connections
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[04:50:11] + Processing work unit
[04:50:11] Core required: FahCore_11.exe
[04:50:11] Core not found.
[04:50:11] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[04:50:11] - Attempting to download new core...
[04:50:11] + Downloading new core: FahCore_11.exe
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[04:50:13] Verifying core Core_11.fah...
[04:50:13] Signature is VALID
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[04:50:13] Trying to unzip core FahCore_11.exe
[04:50:13] Decompressed FahCore_11.exe (1908736 bytes) successfully
[04:50:18] + Core successfully engaged
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[04:50:23] + Processing work unit
[04:50:23] Core required: FahCore_11.exe
[04:50:23] Core found.
[04:50:23] Working on queue slot 01 [February 5 04:50:23 UTC]
[04:50:23] + Working ...
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[04:50:23] *------------------------------*
[04:50:23] Folding@Home GPU Core
[04:50:23] Version 1.31 (Tue Sep 15 10:57:42 PDT 2009)
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[04:50:23] Compiler : Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.762 for 80x86
[04:50:23] Build host: amoeba
[04:50:23] Board Type: Nvidia
[04:50:23] Core :
[04:50:23] Preparing to commence simulation
[04:50:23] - Looking at optimizations...
[04:50:23] DeleteFrameFiles: successfully deleted file=work/wudata_01.ckp
[04:50:23] - Created dyn
[04:50:23] - Files status OK
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[04:50:23] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=73803 data_size=383588, decompressed_data_size=383588 diff=0
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[04:50:23] Project: 6602 (Run 8, Clone 459, Gen 480)
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[04:50:23] Assembly optimizations on if available.
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[04:50:29] Calling fah_main args: 14 usage=100
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[04:50:30] Working on Protein
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This is where the whole rig froze
Mod Edit: Added Code Tags - PantherX
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:08 am
by xxlawman87xx
PantherX wrote:My guess would be that the PSU is being overloaded so can you give us your hardware details? Also, can you please provide us a copy of your FAHlogs (viewtopic.php?p=160884#p160884) so we can see if there is any error and how you have setup the Clients.
BTW, when you say "freeze" do you mean:
A) Desktop lagging i.e. when you move your mouse, it takes a significant time for it to move on the screen
B) The system will not respond at all? If that's the case, can you see your HDD LED blinking, continuously lit or not lit at all?
Option B. LOL....I will check the HDD light to see what it does.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:38 am
by Fahrenheit451
@PantherX: Do you think it's a lack of memory issue? How much is required if you run three gfx cards in one system?
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:03 am
by P5-133XL
When you run into issues where each individual client runs fine but multiple clients cause the computer to bluescreen, freeze, or otherwise totally die then I would start by looking at temperatures all the cards as well as the CPU. Because it takes a few minutes for your machine to die and it normally takes a few minutes for things to heat up I would make sure that nothing is overheating.
Secondly, I understand that you have confidence in your PS but that really is the most likely cause. Even if you have lots of total power capability, it is quite common for there to be limitations such as 1000W total but only 500W combing all the 12V rails. You also need to make sure that you are not accidentally sharing 12V rails. Next you must look at the max amperage allowed on each of your 12V rails and compare them to the maximum current draw for each of the cards i.e. make sure that no cards can exceed the current allowed on your specific 12V rails.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:17 am
by Nathan_P
P5-133XL wrote:Secondly, I understand that you have confidence in your PS but that really is the most likely cause. Even if you have lots of total power capability, it is quite common for there to be limitations such as 1000W total but only 500W combing all the 12V rails. You also need to make sure that you are not accidentally sharing 12V rails. Next you must look at the max amperage allowed on each of your 12V rails and compare them to the maximum current draw for each of the cards i.e. make sure that no cards can exceed the current allowed on your specific 12V rails.
^^^This, there are 1000w psu's and there are 1000w psu's that actually give you 1000w. Brand and model name please and we can soon give you an answer
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:37 am
by Fahrenheit451
Yes, power consumption could be also a reason.
@xxlawman87xx: Do you tested it with two cards only?
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:42 pm
by xxlawman87xx
Hey guys sorry I just woke up. I have a BFG 1000watt PSU and it allow 28amps per rail. I have two rails running to the 480 and one to the 9800gt. The 9800GT EE does not require an auxillery power source. I did some testing and the problem seems to be the regular 9800gt even when i run it by itself the comp freezes after a while. after look at the temps on the card, it hits 83c then it freezes. I have an after market cooler that I am gonna put on it and see what that does. I will keep you guys informed. thanks for your help so far.
EDIT: the rails are also linked.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:35 pm
by xxlawman87xx
Good news, the problem seems to be heat. I put the aftermarket cooler on it and so far (30+ min) it hasnt locked up.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:43 pm
by xxlawman87xx
P5-133XL wrote:When you run into issues where each individual client runs fine but multiple clients cause the computer to bluescreen, freeze, or otherwise totally die then I would start by looking at temperatures all the cards as well as the CPU. Because it takes a few minutes for your machine to die and it normally takes a few minutes for things to heat up I would make sure that nothing is overheating.
Secondly, I understand that you have confidence in your PS but that really is the most likely cause. Even if you have lots of total power capability, it is quite common for there to be limitations such as 1000W total but only 500W combing all the 12V rails. You also need to make sure that you are not accidentally sharing 12V rails. Next you must look at the max amperage allowed on each of your 12V rails and compare them to the maximum current draw for each of the cards i.e. make sure that no cards can exceed the current allowed on your specific 12V rails.
Your overheating intuition was correct. LOL....with the aftermarket cooler its been running for several hours with no problem. Its topping out at 57c...much better than 83c.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:38 am
by Leonardo
I put the aftermarket cooler on it
"It," meaning the CPU?
You really should start monitoring the temperatures. Core Temp is a good monitor for CPUs and MSI Afterburner is good for GPUs. There are others that are good as well.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:24 am
by xxlawman87xx
Leonardo wrote:I put the aftermarket cooler on it
"It," meaning the CPU?
You really should start monitoring the temperatures. Core Temp is a good monitor for CPUs and MSI Afterburner is good for GPUs. There are others that are good as well.
"it" is the GPU. Secondly, I manage/monitor temps to the hilt, i run both temp monitoring software and temp monitoring hardware as any hardcore enthusiast would. Everything is liquid cooled except these auxiliary 9800gt's I know 83c is pushing it for a GPU but I did not know it would cause the system to freeze. My temps never get above 50c on any part of my system aside from those folding gpus. no matter, problem solved.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:34 am
by Leonardo
Sorry, I didn't mean to appear condescending.
I run several systems with 3 X GPU each. I really had to work on case airflow to feed the GPUs enough cool air. It's a challenge.
Re: GPU causing Computer Freeze
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:30 am
by xxlawman87xx
Leonardo wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to appear condescending.
I run several systems with 3 X GPU each. I really had to work on case airflow to feed the GPUs enough cool air. It's a challenge.
Its okay, its been a rough day, i am a little touchy right now. I feel your pain on airflow, that why I went to water cooling. sick of hearing WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR......lol