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Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:16 pm
by smoking2000
I'm quite sad to see that folding-community.org is now really gone, even the URL which didn't redirect to this forum now redirects here.

How can we access the old FCF content now? Or is it really gone forever now?

The FAH Wiki links etc, are now broken again. :(

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:26 pm
by Ivoshiee
When WW will likely find some time to work with it then we'll get it back, but for the time being the FCF is gone.

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:34 pm
by 7im
Use the WebArchive version, as posted in the original thread about this same topic.

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:43 pm
by smoking2000
Thanks for the comments, but the WayBackMachine option is not usable.

I'll consider FCF gone forever, as WW is clearly overworked I doubt FCF will be back.

If I knew it would make a difference, I'd say send me a database dump and put up a mirror, but I'm sure this has been offered already. And passed up for some reason.

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:50 pm
by Ivoshiee
smoking2000 wrote:Thanks for the comments, but the WayBackMachine option is not usable.

I'll consider FCF gone forever, as WW is clearly overworked I doubt FCF will be back.

If I knew it would make a difference, I'd say send me a database dump and put up a mirror, but I'm sure this has been offered already. And passed up for some reason.
I doubt that it is all gone. I think that some FCF admins may have access to the FCF backup (WW, Bruce, Uncle_Fungus...). Send out some PMs/e-mails. If the data is not lost then maybe it is possible to make is available at least in read only form or if the whole DB is not good then pull segments of it to the public.

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:30 pm
by smoking2000
Whatever happens, the important thing to me is that the forum posts of FCF are preserved, because these posts contain almost our entire (support) history.

It's historic significance is immense in my view, and should be preserved indefinitely.

I hope FCF will be restored to continue its preservation :)

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:54 am
by 7im
So be it. Preserved for posterity or not, a year from now it will be mostly irrelevant data. Any relevant data still in that forum will have already floated to the top and have been added to the WIKI or FAQs. RIP

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:06 am
by v00d00
I only ever went there to look at my dumb posts from when i first joined. 2003, was one hell of a year. :D

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:09 am
by smASHer88
I've only just got back into regular forum visiting since the old forum went down and whilst pleased their is still a place to go for support with many issues.. We definitely need the old forum back as I was keeping a very long detailed thread of my team's history - | Aussie Rules Footy | Team 52735 |

I noticed theres no Teams section.. I guess we're all expecting the old forum back.. just a matter of when?

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:32 am
by smoking2000
7im wrote:So be it. Preserved for posterity or not, a year from now it will be mostly irrelevant data. Any relevant data still in that forum will have already floated to the top and have been added to the WIKI or FAQs. RIP
7im, your arrogance is not helpful, please go away and leave this discussion to the people who do still care about the old forum and its informative posts.

W.r.t. relevant data making it to the Wiki, we need to have the old FCF content available first before we can move it to another place for preservation.
Therefor it's important that FCF is restored, and I'm willing to put in as much effort as is needed to get this done. Because I do care.
v00d00 wrote:I only ever went there to look at my dumb posts from when i first joined. 2003, was one hell of a year. :D
I still relied on FCF for the references from the Wiki, and in my work in maintaining qd, I revisited Dick Howells old post every now and then.
I'm working on a post about Dick Howells FAH utilities to add to this forums 3rd party devs forum, but I cannot complete it without access to the old FCF.

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:35 pm
by 7im
My arrogance is only surpassed by my abilities... ;) Enjoy this useless webarchive reference...

http://web.archive.org/web/200609251052 ... .php?t=470

If there is anything else you can't find, just let me know.

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:01 pm
by Pette Broad
Enjoy this useless webarchive reference...
I'm sure I would if IE was prepared to show it. :)

Pete

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:08 pm
by smoking2000
Pette Broad wrote:I'm sure I would if IE was prepared to show it. :)
That problem is easily solved by using Firefox or Opera :)

What is not easily solved is reading the forum thread on the Way Back Machine further than the cached page one.
Let along link to informative post on the old FCF in the Internet Archive.

This is one of the problems with webarchives and dynamic websites, you can't tell based on the filename if the page is the same/unique.
You have to cache all pages based on unique URLs including the query string.

Re: Folding-Community.org Gone

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:28 pm
by 7im
smASHer88 wrote:I've only just got back into regular forum visiting since the old forum went down and whilst pleased their is still a place to go for support with many issues.. We definitely need the old forum back as I was keeping a very long detailed thread of my team's history - | Aussie Rules Footy | Team 52735 |

I noticed theres no Teams section.. I guess we're all expecting the old forum back.. just a matter of when?
It was decided this new forum would focus primarily on technical support. And while a Team section would help to promote the project, it does not help to support it. Here's your old thread...

http://web.archive.org/web/200707031610 ... 19035.html