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Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:00 pm
by Tomwa
So for ages now ATI has offered me the chance to install Folding@Home with my drivers and since I didn't know what it was I didn't allow it to install now that I know what it is however it seems pretty awesome. The problem is I don't know which client I should use so...
I have a.....
Core i7 920 CPU O.C. to 3.2GHz
ATI Radeon 5870 Graphics Card
1TB Harddrive
64bit installation of Windows 7 Ultimate
Which version of the client should I use?
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:29 pm
by jrweiss
You CAN use several different clients, in various combinations, depending on your technical comfort level.
The easiest way to start is to use the CPU "uniprocessor" Systray client. Installation and configuration are straightforward, but will not use all your machine's capabilities.
Next easiest is to install 1 CPU Console client for each of your CPU cores (assuming 4 for the i7). When run as Services after initial configuration, they are essentially "out of sight; out of mind." Mind the instructions in the Wiki (
http://fahwiki.net/index.php/FAH_%26_SM ... le_Clients) and/or Install Guides (
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Guide) about installing to separate folders (e.g., C:\Fah\CPU1 and C:\Fah\CPU2...) and setting different Machine IDs (1-8; recommend 1-4 for 4 CPU clients) for each client instance.
In addition to the above, you can run the "high performance" GPU client, which uses the 5870 GPU for calculations instead of the i7 CPU. The GPU client runs well alongside the CPU client[s] on most machines. You will have to read up on the Environmental Variables in various threads here; search for them. Also, the Console client version runs best alongside the CPU clients, and you'll have to assign another Machine ID (e.g., 5). Running the GPU client as a Service was not supported under Vista, but I don't know the status re Win7.
Finally, and the most difficult for many in terms of installation, configuration, and maintenance, is to replace ALL your CPU client instances with a single SMP client (which is described as high performance AND beta). If you're reasonably technically savvy, you can do this up front, instead of progressing through the CPU clients described above. The SMP client makes best use of the i7 CPU resources, and can also be run alongside the GPU client. Running the SMP client as a Service is also not supported, so you'll likely wind up with the SMP and GPU clients showing constantly in the Taskbar.
Others may talk about Virtual Machines and Linux, but that's an entire additional story...
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:09 am
by rhavern
I am technical but by no stretch of the imagination a linux guru. Never installed a linux OS in my life; did solaris about 20 years ago, but that is a different era any more
Last weekend I decided to try running up ubuntu on an AMD dual-core in a VM. Googled a how-to from 2007 that was for ubuntu v6 but it wasn't that much different, just easier than those instructions. Within 2-2.5 hours, I had an SMP version running in the VM. Don't forget to sort out the process priorities if mixing with a GPU client or PPD will suffer. In the end, with about 3 hours tinkering, it all works fine.
All the tools and OS to set it up are free. As long as you have adequate memory to dedicate to the VM, no real risk in giving a bash. And setting up linux in a VM is serious geek porn
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:10 am
by Tomwa
Um Yeah thanks for the help lol I think I have some reading to do...
Okay So SMP It is I guess the problem is it says
"At present your GPU is not supported or you need a current driver.
You may wish to consider running our standard client,
which you can dowload at folding.stanford.edu"
Guess the 5870 isn't supported?
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:58 am
by Amaruk
Tomwa wrote:Guess the 5870 isn't supported?
Not automatically - you will need to use the
-forcegpu ati_r700 flag.
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=12614
http://fahwiki.net/index.php/How_do_I_a ... _client%3F
http://fahwiki.net/index.php/How_do_I_a ... _client%3F
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:23 am
by Tomwa
Fantastic GPU version working perfectly used -forcegpu ati_r700 flag and everythings great now about SMP I cant seem to get that to make progress it just says 0 out of 500000 forever.
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:07 am
by Nathan_P
Tomwa wrote:Fantastic GPU version working perfectly used -forcegpu ati_r700 flag and everythings great now about SMP I cant seem to get that to make progress it just says 0 out of 500000 forever.
Which Smp client are you running, Windows or LInux??
Also Monitor your clients using FAHMon, HFM.net or similar - they give you easily readable info. Use the Tools link at the top of the page
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:30 pm
by Tomwa
Well I'm using windows 7 Ultimate 64bit (As I stated above) but it just refuses to work. I downloaded "Windows: V6 Beta SMP/CPU clients e4fa59c4a1f6a040d8b22780c87c6d35" and installed it ran install.bat so and launched it with the exe went through some gibberish skipped advance options and it said everything was good and it is STILL sitting at 0. Also my GPU client keeps abandoning Work Units its count up and it will start over way before it hits the huge 10000000 number (or however many zeros it has).
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:13 pm
by Nathan_P
OK
Can you please post the contents of your Fahlog.txt files for both clients. Use the code tags at the to of the message box.
Open Fahlog.txt, Highlight and copy everything to the clipboard, Flip back to your browser, press the code button. You should see{code][/Code]. paste the contents between them,
That way we can help trouble shoot
Re: Which client do I use?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:33 pm
by Tomwa
Fixed the SMP needed a different machine ID both were 1
Heres the log for the GPU
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--- Opening Log file [January 3 08:16:13 UTC]
# Windows GPU Console Edition #################################################
###############################################################################
Folding@Home Client Version 6.23
http://folding.stanford.edu
###############################################################################
###############################################################################
Launch directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu
Arguments: -forcegpu ati_r700 -config
[08:17:19] - Ask before connecting: No
[08:17:19] - User name: Tomwa (Team 177898)
[08:17:19] - User ID: D1BC3480B3846D0
[08:17:19] - Machine ID: 1
[08:17:19]
[08:17:19] Work directory not found. Creating...
[08:17:19] Could not open work queue, generating new queue...
[08:17:19] Initialization complete
[08:17:19] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[08:17:19] + Attempting to get work packet
[08:17:19] - Connecting to assignment server
[08:17:25] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.102).
[08:17:25] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[08:17:26] Loaded queue successfully.
[08:17:28] + Closed connections
[08:17:28]
[08:17:28] + Processing work unit
[08:17:28] Core required: FahCore_11.exe
[08:17:28] Core not found.
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[08:17:28] - Attempting to download new core...
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[08:17:36] Verifying core Core_11.fah...
[08:17:36] Signature is VALID
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[08:17:36] Trying to unzip core FahCore_11.exe
[08:17:36] Decompressed FahCore_11.exe (3203072 bytes) successfully
[08:17:41] + Core successfully engaged
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[08:17:46] + Processing work unit
[08:17:46] Core required: FahCore_11.exe
[08:17:46] Core found.
[08:17:46] Working on queue slot 01 [January 3 08:17:46 UTC]
[08:17:46] + Working ...
[08:17:46]
[08:17:46] *------------------------------*
[08:17:46] Folding@Home GPU Core - Beta
[08:17:46] Version 1.24 (Mon Feb 9 11:00:12 PST 2009)
[08:17:46]
[08:17:46] Compiler : Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.762 for 80x86
[08:17:46] Build host: amoeba
[08:17:46] Board Type: AMD
[08:17:46] Core :
[08:17:46] Preparing to commence simulation
[08:17:46] - Looking at optimizations...
[08:17:46] - Created dyn
[08:17:46] - Files status OK
[08:17:47] - Expanded 98632 -> 492188 (decompressed 499.0 percent)
[08:17:47] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=98632 data_size=492188, decompressed_data_size=492188 diff=0
[08:17:47] - Digital signature verified
[08:17:47]
[08:17:47] Project: 5734 (Run 1, Clone 4, Gen 587)
[08:17:47]
[08:17:47] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[08:17:47] Entering M.D.
[08:17:52] Tpr hash work/wudata_01.tpr: 3674990358 1685196265 386099357 107760265 4090760409
[08:17:53] Working on Protein
[08:17:53] Client config found, loading data.
[08:17:53] Starting GUI Server
[08:19:57] Completed 1%
[08:21:48] Completed 2%
[08:23:58] Completed 3%
[08:24:55] Opening http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=177898...
[08:25:48] Completed 4%
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[08:49:40] mdrun_gpu returned
[08:49:40] NANs detected on GPU
[08:49:40]
[08:49:40] Folding@home Core Shutdown: UNSTABLE_MACHINE
[08:49:42] CoreStatus = 7A (122)
[08:49:42] Sending work to server
[08:49:42] Project: 5734 (Run 1, Clone 4, Gen 587)
[08:49:42] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[08:49:42] - Error: Could not get length of results file work/wuresults_01.dat
[08:49:42] - Error: Could not read unit 01 file. Removing from queue.
[08:49:42] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[08:49:42] + Attempting to get work packet
[08:49:42] - Connecting to assignment server
[08:49:42] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.102).
[08:49:42] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[08:49:43] Loaded queue successfully.
[08:49:45] + Closed connections
[08:49:50]
[08:49:50] + Processing work unit
[08:49:50] Core required: FahCore_11.exe
[08:49:50] Core found.
[08:49:50] Working on queue slot 02 [January 3 08:49:50 UTC]
[08:49:50] + Working ...
[08:49:50]
[08:49:50] *------------------------------*
[08:49:50] Folding@Home GPU Core - Beta
[08:49:50] Version 1.24 (Mon Feb 9 11:00:12 PST 2009)
[08:49:50]
[08:49:50] Compiler : Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.762 for 80x86
[08:49:50] Build host: amoeba
[08:49:50] Board Type: AMD
[08:49:50] Core :
[08:49:50] Preparing to commence simulation
[08:49:50] - Looking at optimizations...
[08:49:50] - Created dyn
[08:49:50] - Files status OK
[08:49:50] - Expanded 98632 -> 492188 (decompressed 499.0 percent)
[08:49:50] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=98632 data_size=492188, decompressed_data_size=492188 diff=0
[08:49:50] - Digital signature verified
[08:49:50]
[08:49:50] Project: 5734 (Run 1, Clone 4, Gen 587)
[08:49:50]
[08:49:50] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[08:49:50] Entering M.D.
[08:49:56] Tpr hash work/wudata_02.tpr: 3674990358 1685196265 386099357 107760265 4090760409
[08:49:56] Working on Protein
[08:49:56] Client config found, loading data.
[08:49:56] Starting GUI Server
--- Opening Log file [January 3 08:55:12 UTC]
# Windows GPU Console Edition #################################################
###############################################################################
Folding@Home Client Version 6.23
http://folding.stanford.edu
###############################################################################
###############################################################################
Launch directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu
Arguments: -forcegpu ati_r700 -config
[08:55:12] - Ask before connecting: No
[08:55:12] - User name: Tomwa (Team 177898)
[08:55:12] - User ID: D1BC3480B3846D0
[08:55:12] - Machine ID: 1
[08:55:12]
[08:55:27] - Ask before connecting: No
[08:55:27] - User name: Tomwa (Team 177898)
[08:55:27] - User ID: D1BC3480B3846D0
[08:55:27] - Machine ID: 1
[08:55:27]
[08:55:28] Loaded queue successfully.
[08:55:28] Initialization complete
[08:55:28]
[08:55:28] + Processing work unit
[08:55:28] Core required: FahCore_11.exe
[08:55:28] Core found.
[08:55:28] Working on queue slot 02 [January 3 08:55:28 UTC]
[08:55:28] + Working ...
[08:55:28]
[08:55:28] *------------------------------*
[08:55:28] Folding@Home GPU Core - Beta
[08:55:28] Version 1.24 (Mon Feb 9 11:00:12 PST 2009)
[08:55:28]
[08:55:28] Compiler : Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.762 for 80x86
[08:55:28] Build host: amoeba
[08:55:28] Board Type: AMD
[08:55:28] Core :
[08:55:28] Preparing to commence simulation
[08:55:28] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[08:55:38] - Looking at optimizations...
[08:55:38] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[08:55:38] - Previous termination of core was improper.
[08:55:38] - Files status OK
[08:55:38] - Expanded 98632 -> 492188 (decompressed 499.0 percent)
[08:55:38] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=98632 data_size=492188, decompressed_data_size=492188 diff=0
[08:55:38] - Digital signature verified
[08:55:38]
[08:55:38] Project: 5734 (Run 1, Clone 4, Gen 587)
[08:55:38]
[08:55:38] Entering M.D.
[08:55:44] Will resume from checkpoint file
[08:55:44] Tpr hash work/wudata_02.tpr: 3674990358 1685196265 386099357 107760265 4090760409
[08:55:44] Working on Protein
[08:55:44] Client config found, loading data.
[08:55:44] Starting GUI Server
[08:55:46] Resuming from checkpoint
[08:55:46] fcCheckPointResume: retreived and current tpr file hash:
[08:55:46] 0 3674990358 3674990358
[08:55:46] 1 1685196265 1685196265
[08:55:46] 2 386099357 386099357
[08:55:46] 3 107760265 107760265
[08:55:46] 4 4090760409 4090760409
[08:55:46] Verified work/wudata_02.log
[08:55:46] Verified work/wudata_02.edr
[08:55:46] Verified work/wudata_02.xtc
[08:57:42] Completed 1%
[08:59:33] Completed 2%
[08:59:33] mdrun_gpu returned
[08:59:33] NANs detected on GPU
[08:59:33]
[08:59:33] Folding@home Core Shutdown: UNSTABLE_MACHINE
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.