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Re: Query: Adding more PCs (launch and forget programs)?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:29 am
by John Naylor
Adam A. Wanderer wrote:I think this will get no way but worse. Please help. At least consider starting a "launch and forget" program project. Thanks.
I can only speculate due to not being a member of the pande group but I would suspect this is probably the aim of the complete rewrite for v7. But then, I remember how long v6 was discussed for before it appeared so I'm not holding my breath on any help soon
Re: Query: Adding more PCs (launch and forget programs)?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:56 pm
by codysluder
I have found that the classic client is a launch and forget client. If you're talking about any of the other clients, then I strongly agree with your sentiments. How many times have you recommended a client OTHER THAN the classic systray client? If it's not zero, then your trying to be too helpful and you're just frustrating yourself.
Re: Query: Adding more PCs (launch and forget programs)?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:48 pm
by kiore
Adam A. Wanderer wrote:codysluder wrote:I have found that the classic client is a launch and forget client. If you're talking about any of the other clients, then I strongly agree with your sentiments. How many times have you recommended a client OTHER THAN the classic systray client? If it's not zero, then your trying to be too helpful and you're just frustrating yourself.
Good points! But, it's reached the point where the only client that even begins to work for me, with all my years of F@H is the little system tray v6.3. Even that one is giving me trouble besides not taking full advantage of my PC. I wouldn't even _dare_ to try the more powerful programs! One of my friends, who builds and repairs custom, high end PCs for a living won't try to go beyond the system tray v6.3 program! It's like the hardware is beginning to outrun the programs for folding (God forbid)! What's the point of having a power PC if you can't install F@H/S@H programs to take advantage of the extra power? Even the console program refuses to work (it worked in the past on simpler machines, now it's about as bad as trying to put sand in your car's motor oil, and that's no joke)! Does Intel and companies like EVGA even have an idea of how to maximize output on advanced hardware?
Thanks for listening.
Either there is something seriously wrong with your system or you may be exagerating a little. I do not pretend to be anything but a noob here, but have managed to set up gpu and multicpu clients with no help and multi gpu clients with help (thanks again everyone) Yes SMP is complicated and takes some watching, same with multigpu's.
I do recommend to new people on my team to start off with a single cpu systray or console client to see how things go and people rarely have difficulty with that.
Yes it would be great to have an easy installer for more of the clients, I do not disagree here, but do disagree that a cpu client is not making full use of a powerful cpu, surely a powerful cpu run at full capacity will belt them out really quickly.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding you and you are referring purely to the SMP client.
kiore.
Re: Query: Adding more PCs (launch and forget programs)?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:49 pm
by jrweiss
For anyone with a modicum of computer savvy, installing 4 CPU clients to run as Services on a Quad-core CPU should take about 15 minutes, tops (including initial testing and creation of shortcuts for maintenance).
I'd be REALLY suspect of a professional computer builder who can't get beyond the systray client...
Re: Query: Adding more PCs (launch and forget programs)?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:01 am
by Christopher N. Lewis
I hope you have read
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther. May I bring your attention to this paragraph:-
"Finally, note that while the points per day for these clients are higher than the classic client, they can require a lot more maintenance due to their experimental or beta nature. If you would prefer to have a client which runs as smoothly as possible, we suggest you run our main client, not a high performance client. If you run a high performance client, expect a much more complex experience and much more work to keep the client running (which is compensated by extra points per day)."
Or you could try out MaxFAH from the 3rd party software forum.