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It is not weird for 5090. This GPU chokes with smaller projects and for it, everything but the most massive projects is small.
We can easily enable it for wider range of projects, but then you have people moaning that their 3000 dollar GPU is not getting enough PPD.
At the moment there is a shortage of GPU WUs overall

Damn, I didn't know that. Maybe I should rethink getting four 5080s (both 5080 and 5090 are species 10) and downgrade to something cheaper and more useful for science, since folding on something slower is better than not folding at all.

Is the GPU WU shortage a temporary thing or is this likely how it's going to be for a good while, with a surplus of GPUs? Just trying to rethink how best to optimize my contribution with the budget I have.

Shortages are like waves in the ocean They come and go. Not because of the more processing power available.

US government announcement of cut financing for viral research does not help things, either

I'll admit, this is a bit of a disillusionment. I was under the impression that FAH could always use more processing power, but if me spending money on good hardware will simply cause others, like OP here, to wait longer without actually speeding up the science at all, that's quite disappointing.

Maybe one day in a utopian future, enough force fields will be shared between GROMACS and OpenMM that there can be one core to rule them all, handling both GPU and CPU. Until then, it's not too late for me to send back my 5080s and buy some EPYCs.

Cheers for the heads up.

I’m only folding on the 5090 when I’m not gaming, so not a worry.

Is there a greater demand for cpu folding? I still have my 64 core opteron from the bigadv days gathering dust.

scorpuk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:25 pm Cheers for the heads up.

I’m only folding on the 5090 when I’m not gaming, so not a worry.

Is there a greater demand for cpu folding? I still have my 64 core opteron from the bigadv days gathering dust.

Even though CPUs are much less efficient at folding than GPUs (by 10x to 100x), it does appear that there are more CPU jobs and more CPU jobs that are in the queue. The longer a WU waits in the queue, the higher the demand.

An Opteron might not be very fast. The 6380 gets ~25k PPD (https://folding.lar.systems/cpu_ppd/bra ... essor_6380). It's likely that your gaming computer's CPU will do more work, even if it's only folding while you aren't gaming. But every little bit helps of course!

I've set my system for GPU folding only, and that's worked up until this recent shortage. Now I'm getting CPU work, which gets assigned but doesn't reach 1% until a GPU unit is also assigned, and they're assigned to me until I manually reject them. Not sure where to post this, as it might be an error, but it's not tied to one type of work unit.

Dayle Diamond wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:52 pm I've set my system for GPU folding only, and that's worked up until this recent shortage. Now I'm getting CPU work, which gets assigned but doesn't reach 1% until a GPU unit is also assigned, and they're assigned to me until I manually reject them. Not sure where to post this, as it might be an error, but it's not tied to one type of work unit.

Post a screenshot of what you have set up with your clients

Excuse me was sent WU project:18240 run:1021 clone:3 gen:234 recieved?

Duce H_K_ wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 11:36 am Excuse me was sent WU project:18240 run:1021 clone:3 gen:234 recieved?

Yes it was:

Hello...relative newbie here. I initially created an ID & account and was successfully able to fold on my Apple M3 MBP running FireFox 139.0.1 under macOS 15.5.
At some time later I decided that I wanted to change to a different team & everything went downhill from there. I got the team change done however since then I do not get any WU. I am fairly sure there is some type of self-induced configuration problem on my end but am at a loss as to what it may be. I have attached some log entries in hopes that someone more familiar with F@H can diagnose & point me in the right direction.

16:49:09:I1: OS Version: 15.5
16:49:09:I1:Has Battery: true
16:49:09:I1: On Battery: false
16:49:09:I1: Hostname: billgr0248s-MacBook-Pro.local
16:49:09:I1: UTC Offset: -7
16:49:09:I1: PID: 383
16:49:09:I1: CWD: /Library/Application Support/FAHClient
16:49:09:I1: Exec: /usr/local/bin/fah-client
16:49:09:I1:*******************************************************************
16:49:09:I2:<config>
16:49:09:I2: <!-- Project Settings -->
16:49:09:I2: <cause v='COVID_19'/>
16:49:09:I2:
16:49:09:I2: <!-- User Information -->
16:49:09:I2: <passkey v='*****'/>
16:49:09:I2: <team v='58207'/>
16:49:09:I2: <user v='billgr0248'/>
16:49:09:I2:</config>
16:49:09:I1:Opening Database
16:49:09:I1:F@H ID = lbEVuyjOtveWz7Vu6MX__oauBvG9c20jMknqD5Tky0w
16:49:09:I3:Loading default resource group
16:49:09:I1:Listening for HTTP on 127.0.0.1:7396
16:49:09:I3:Loaded 0 wus.
16:49:09:W :CON1:DNS lookup failed for api.foldingathome.org
16:49:09:E :OUT1:Failed response: CONNECT
16:49:24:I1:OUT2:> GET https://api.foldingathome.org/machine/l ... knqD5Tky0w HTTP/1.1
16:49:25:I1:OUT2:< HTTP/1.1 200 HTTP_OK
16:49:25:I1:OUT3:> GET wss://node1.foldingathome.org/ws/client HTTP/1.1
16:49:25:I1:OUT3:< HTTP/1.1 101 HTTP_SWITCHING_PROTOCOLS
16:49:25:I1:Logging into node account
19:23:28:I1:Account websocket closed: PROTOCOL msg=Failed to read header start
19:23:28:I1:OUT4:> GET https://api.foldingathome.org/machine/l ... knqD5Tky0w HTTP/1.1
19:23:29:I1:OUT4:< HTTP/1.1 200 HTTP_OK
----------------------------------/ break /--------------------------------
20:04:01:I1:Account websocket closed: PROTOCOL msg=Failed to read header start
20:04:01:I1:OUT58:> GET https://api.foldingathome.org/machine/l ... knqD5Tky0w HTTP/1.1
20:04:02:I1:OUT58:< HTTP/1.1 200 HTTP_OK
20:04:02:I1:OUT3:> GET wss://node1.foldingathome.org/ws/client HTTP/1.1
20:04:02:I1:OUT3:< HTTP/1.1 101 HTTP_SWITCHING_PROTOCOLS
20:04:02:I1:Logging into node account
00:00:00:I3:Removing old file 'logs/log-20211208-205514.txt'
22:07:00:I1:Machine state fold
22:07:00:I1:Default:Added new work unit: cpus:2 gpus:
22:07:00:I1:WU145:Requesting WU assignment for user billgr0248 team 50
22:07:00:I1:OUT188:> POST https://assign1.foldingathome.org/api/assign HTTP/1.1
22:07:01:I1:OUT188:< HTTP/1.1 503 HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE
22:07:01:E :OUT188:HTTP_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE: {"error":"No appropriate assignment"}
22:07:01:I1:WU145:Retry #1 in 2 secs
---------------------------------/ Ad infinitum /--------------------------

Thanks in advance for any & all help and insight.
billgr0248

You currently need to set cpus to 3 or more.

I am not sure what I did but I closed ALL apps on my MBP & cycled the power. After I re-started everything. low & behold I started folding again! Sometime today I apparently ran out of work and I am now back to:
03:27:42:I1:WU164:Requesting WU assignment for user billgr0248 team 50
03:27:43:I1:WU164:Retry #78 in 8 mins 32 secs
03:36:15:I1:WU164:Requesting WU assignment for user billgr0248 team 50
03:36:15:I1:WU164:Retry #79 in 8 mins 32 secs
I also run BOINC with several projects all now set to use no more than 50% of all resources so I will see how this all shakes out if/when I start getting work again.