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Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:36 pm
by Shadowtester
Any chance to get FahMon to be able to monitor folding clients from the internet using http? Would be nice to be able to remotely monitor my FAH clients from the internet without having to set up a web server on one of the clients and such especially for Linux and if so any idea of a time line?

Thanks

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:43 pm
by Ivoshiee
Shadowtester wrote:Any chance to get FahMon to be able to monitor folding clients from the internet using http? Would be nice to be able to remotely monitor my FAH clients from the internet without having to set up a web server on one of the clients and such especially for Linux and if so any idea of a time line?

Thanks
What are you asking for?
Do you want the FahMon to be a Web server?

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:42 pm
by Shadowtester
I would like to be able to run FahMon on a remote computer connected to my home network by the internet and be able to monitor the client like it was being run locally or at least have it able to access the folding log and provide status from that ie use the log as the source of client info. Right now to monitor my FAH clients remotely I use VNC and remote desktop into the folding computer and use FahMon there would like a solution where I would not have to remote desktop into. I am not sure exactly what FahMon uses to monitor the status but would it be possible to access those files from the internet also to allow FahMon to monitor a client remotely.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:10 am
by bruce
The issue is not what FahMon can monitor, the issue is whether you've published the data from the remote machine so that FahMon on the local machine can read it. Are you really willing to give the entire internet access to your folding directories in all of your machines? That's exact kind of indiscriminate access that a firewall is designed to prohibit.

All of the machines on my LAN share their FAH directories and they can all be accessed from a single copy of FahMon but all of those machines are also behind a NAT Router so that data is not exposed to the Internet.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:36 pm
by sean_oz
Uncle, anyone else reported P3906 on FAHmon giving strange results after step 50.
eg huge completion times (in the thousands of days) and over the top points output.
I have taken a screen shot and it is happening on all XP/5.04 machines.

S*

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:38 pm
by uncle fuzzy
sean_oz wrote:Uncle, anyone else reported P3906 on FAHmon giving strange results after step 50.
eg huge completeion times (in the thousands of days) and over the top points output.
I have taken a screen shot and it is happening on all XP/5.04 machines.

S*
Take the numbers it was giving you before it hit 50% and double it. You can pretty much ignore what it says after 50%. PPD is half of what fahmon shows. The problem seems to be with the WU.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:43 pm
by bruce
The problem seems to be with the WU.
The Project Summary says that this WU has 50 frames but it's actually running for 100 frames. FahMon assumes that the data in psummary.html is correct.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:07 pm
by ICE_9
Shadowtester wrote:I would like to be able to run FahMon on a remote computer connected to my home network by the internet and be able to monitor the client like it was being run locally or at least have it able to access the folding log and provide status from that ie use the log as the source of client info. Right now to monitor my FAH clients remotely I use VNC and remote desktop into the folding computer and use FahMon there would like a solution where I would not have to remote desktop into. I am not sure exactly what FahMon uses to monitor the status but would it be possible to access those files from the internet also to allow FahMon to monitor a client remotely.
Are you looking for something like this?

http://home.orbitelcom.com/cweldridge/stats.html

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:17 pm
by Shadowtester
ICE_9 wrote:
Shadowtester wrote:I would like to be able to run FahMon on a remote computer connected to my home network by the internet and be able to monitor the client like it was being run locally or at least have it able to access the folding log and provide status from that ie use the log as the source of client info. Right now to monitor my FAH clients remotely I use VNC and remote desktop into the folding computer and use FahMon there would like a solution where I would not have to remote desktop into. I am not sure exactly what FahMon uses to monitor the status but would it be possible to access those files from the internet also to allow FahMon to monitor a client remotely.
Are you looking for something like this?

http://home.orbitelcom.com/cweldridge/stats.html
Yes that would be great but most of those setup require setting up a web site and an webserver like apache and I have no experience doing that never created a web page before.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:50 pm
by MstrBlstr
Shadowtester wrote:
ICE_9 wrote:
Shadowtester wrote:I would like to be able to run FahMon on a remote computer connected to my home network by the internet and be able to monitor the client like it was being run locally or at least have it able to access the folding log and provide status from that ie use the log as the source of client info. Right now to monitor my FAH clients remotely I use VNC and remote desktop into the folding computer and use FahMon there would like a solution where I would not have to remote desktop into. I am not sure exactly what FahMon uses to monitor the status but would it be possible to access those files from the internet also to allow FahMon to monitor a client remotely.
Are you looking for something like this?

http://home.orbitelcom.com/cweldridge/stats.html
Yes that would be great but most of those setup require setting up a web site and an webserver like apache and I have no experience doing that never created a web page before.
Or perhaps something like these?

http://foldy.nozero.org/
http://dcwu.org/

You don't necessarily have to setup a web server locally on your own. You can just use a hosting service such as PowWeb or GoDaddy.

Most of the internet monitors of this type will be scripts, either based on Perl, PHP, or Python. Some you can get the code for, some perhaps not. The script is what generates the HTML page, so there is really nothing that you have to do to design a web page. But, it would require that you be able to upload the appropriate client files to the host site for the script to be able to access them.

The two that I linked to above, require a modified unitinfo.txt file to get the info that they need to display. (No, I am not talking about modifying the actual unitinfo.cfg file, but a copy of it.) This is done by a script that copies the unitinfo.txt file on the client machine, adds the modifications, and uploads it via FTP to the host monitor site.

Using the unitinfo.txt file is not always the best way to do this, but it is the smallest file that you can upload , and still get the information that you need to display the page properly.

Anyway, this all really has nothing to do with the question that you ask, nor FahMon, and U-F may move it. ;)

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:56 pm
by MstrBlstr
Shadowtester wrote:Any chance to get FahMon to be able to monitor folding clients from the internet using http? Would be nice to be able to remotely monitor my FAH clients from the internet without having to set up a web server on one of the clients and such especially for Linux and if so any idea of a time line?

Thanks
I can't speak for uncle_fungus, but I would have to agree with Bruce on this one.

1. It would be a lot of work.
2. The security implications would just be to great, and most donors/users would not want that.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:56 pm
by Flathead74
Something really nice about FahMon is that it is a basic, no bloat monitor...

It seems like folks are trying to break that.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:59 am
by RAH
I see someone has already posted about the 39XX wus and 50 frames.

So my question is:
Uncle Fungus would it be to much trouble to make the "projects" dat file a normal dat file that could
be opened with wordpad. That way we could just mod it to correctness. Like we used to do with
the EMIII file.


If not, then the file can be opened with a Hex editor. Look for the Hexdecimal 982132.
Change the 32 to 64. Safe and close. Reopen FaHMon and the WU is now seen correctly.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:01 am
by ICE_9
as far as a website, I use the 10MB space my ISP gave me when I signed up with them. Second, FAHmon aldready exports the information to 3 types of http files. And third, I used a dedicated boxen to upload the http file I wanted every 5 minutes to the free web space I have online.

Re: FahMon (multi-platform app to monitor various F@h clients)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:28 am
by MstrBlstr
ICE_9 wrote:Second, FAHmon aldready exports the information to 3 types of http files.
I didn't realize FAHmon did this. Where are the http files that you speak of? I can't seem to find them, or how to have them exported. What am I missing here?

EDIT: DOH'!!!! I found it.... It was hidden. Teach me to RTFM more often!!! :oops:

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