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foldy wrote:AMD RX6000 GPUs are announced for Christmas 2020 with double performance than RX 5700.

End of next month, or are you same as majority of nutjobs start celebrating xmas around september?

Nah,yeah, awesome for gaming, only 2m ppd for folding

The first tests are in. And while a Radeon RX 6800XT seems to trade blows with a 3080,
In folding it would probably not work as well, as the 6800XT is rated at 20 Tflops, which is certainly faster than the 14Tflops of a 2080Ti, or ~17Tflops of 2080Tis with aftermarket coolers, while the 3080 is rated at almost 30Tflops.

MeeLee wrote:The first tests are in. And while a Radeon RX 6800XT seems to trade blows with a 3080,
In folding it would probably not work as well, as the 6800XT is rated at 20 Tflops, which is certainly faster than the 14Tflops of a 2080Ti, or ~17Tflops of 2080Tis with aftermarket coolers, while the 3080 is rated at almost 30Tflops.

With nVidia's Ampere FLOPS lost any reasonable meaning completely, so the guess that AMD will be bad on folding based on TFLOPS alone is not correct
I agree That new cards will be bad in folding relatively speaking, however not because their FLOPS are lower than nVidoa tflops

I was expecting the new AMDs to be competitive with the new nVidias at Folding, but then there was that software upgrade that improves the use of CUDA cores. Unless someone implements something similar, but tailored to the new AMDs, I doubt that they’ll be competitive for our particular niche use. Pity.

Without CUDA like alternative AMD has no chance with folding. But we will see

muziqaz wrote:With nVidia's Ampere FLOPS lost any reasonable meaning completely, so the guess that AMD will be bad on folding based on TFLOPS alone is not correct
I agree That new cards will be bad in folding relatively speaking, however not because their FLOPS are lower than nVidia tflops

Even before nVidia decided to cheat in their interpretation of FLOPS, it was never a realistic measurement of FAH's performance. FLOPS is a marketing number used to sell hardware to people who make no attempt to understand what they're buying. The term CUDA is also over-used by nVidia's marketing department, but the difference is that it actually works.

Good news it looks like upcoming AMD GPUs are fast in crypto mining. That means more nvidia GPUs will be available for folding users.

The GPU market for FAH and for games and for crypto-mining are pretty much independent. Whether AMD or nVidia "wins" one market has little affect on the others but does leave more hardware on the used equipment market.

foldy wrote:Good news it looks like upcoming AMD GPUs are fast in crypto mining. That means more nvidia GPUs will be available for folding users.

That news was fake

The first time I bought a 2080Ti, I got one about 6 months after release date. This was the first moment prices dropped below MSRP, and refurbished models became available for <$300 cheaper.
If the same is true for the 3000 series, we'd be looking at March, before prices stabilize.
Even now, some models are still for sale on ebay by scalpers asking twice to thrice the price for it.
And it agitated me, knowing that they're just there, unused, waiting for someone to buy them, while we're waiting for prices to become affordable, so we can actually DO something with them.

So i just installed my RX6800xt and it´s a real beast of a gpu.
Is there any timetable for getting it into F@H?

Skajaquada wrote:So i just installed my RX6800xt and it´s a real beast of a gpu.
Is there any timetable for getting it into F@H?

Usually within 24-48 hours of someone supplying the PCI device ID for a new card, see the topic in the forum for New GPUs - viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26208 - for details on GPUS.txt and getting a card added.

Skajaquada wrote:So i just installed my RX6800xt and it´s a real beast of a gpu.
Is there any timetable for getting it into F@H?

Sit tight, it will be added in few hours

Let us know how it does in FAH

P.S. you are one lucky lucky person

Joe_H wrote:

Skajaquada wrote:So i just installed my RX6800xt and it´s a real beast of a gpu.
Is there any timetable for getting it into F@H?

Usually within 24-48 hours of someone supplying the PCI device ID for a new card, see the topic in the forum for New GPUs - viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26208 - for details on GPUS.txt and getting a card added.

IDs are known now so it is just a matter of people responsible getting in their comfy chairs to add it to gpu.txt

Talk about scalping, I've seen one of the vendors that NewEgg partners with (DigitalShopper) offer a GT740 Supercharged 2GB single width card for $4k. While Data Group was offering a 4GB double width version of it for $315.

Sorry for adding vendor names. Just wanted to make sure you knew who one of the scalpers (with a business license that IMHO needs to be revoked) is. In disclosure, I absolve NewEgg of any liability for the pricing of products that are sold through them by third party affiliates.

Paul