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JimF wrote:V7 automates you out of the system a little too readily.

That's a bit of an extreme generalization. Setting gpu='true' and/or smp='true' may be doing that, but you have the option of leaving them set to false. You're just not familiar enough with the options yet. ost people seem to prefer it this way (I don't see many complaints about the automatic configuration) but if you don't like it, you can leave gpu at the default 'false' value.

No, it is not an extreme generalization, it is my experience after considerable time using it. The better option is v6, the subject of this discussion.

EDIT: While we are on the subject, I forgot to mention the really obvious solution. V7 picks up both cards correctly, but when I delete the slot for the HD 7770 it does not stay deleted, but comes back to haunt me. That should be a simple thing to fix, and does not impose any undue hardship for first-time users or impair ease of use. It would then be behaving the way it is expected to behave, and none of the other work-arounds should be necessary at all.

When does it come back? Immediately? After a reboot?

JimF wrote:No, it is not an extreme generalization, it is my experience after considerable time using it. The better option is v6, the subject of this discussion.

EDIT: While we are on the subject, I forgot to mention the really obvious solution. V7 picks up both cards correctly, but when I delete the slot for the HD 7770 it does not stay deleted, but comes back to haunt me. That should be a simple thing to fix, and does not impose any undue hardship for first-time users or impair ease of use. It would then be behaving the way it is expected to behave, and none of the other work-arounds should be necessary at all.

The fix for this already exists, please see here and then the results of the test here. Basically all you have to do is disable the 'autoconfigure GPUs' function which is causing your problem, by setting the 'gpu' flag to 'false'.

My suggestion for the v7 installation process is here, which could be amended to separate the choice of the 'smp' true/false and 'gpu' true/false selections.

art,

I wasn't saying that your fix did not work, only that it should not be necessary by default. However, I will try it the next time I need v7.

JimF wrote:art,

I wasn't saying that your fix did not work, only that it should not be necessary by default. However, I will try it the next time I need v7.

OK, that's why I added the suggestion about the install process, so that it would be selectable to work the way you want, or the way it works right now.

The default value of gpu is FALSE but the initial installation includes a default configuration which specifies gpu=true, which makes sense for a new user with no configuration. In other words, the design of V7 did have some uncertainty about what's right for everyone.

When a new user installs V6, he must make all the decisions about how many GPU and/or CPU clients to install and how to configure them. You're not a new user so you've already learned how to get the most out of your system. By default, V7 is set up for the Novice but an experienced user like you can quickly set up something that is more precisely aimed at their exact combination of hardware.

Perhaps what you're saying is that "V6 is better because I already know how to configure it. I don't want to be forced to learn the V7 method of rebuilding my current setup." That reason makes sense to me.

The design of V7 is aimed precisely at the Novice user. For Power uses, all of the features of V6 (plus some new ones) are also available but you do need to learn a new method of configuring what you want. Step 1: Remove gpu=true. Step 2: Manually construct whatever GPU slots match your hardware. [Note that -forcegpu won't be required and gpu 0 / gpu 1 ... may be somewhat different.]

V7 works fine for most people most of the time. But why not an "Enable" checkbox for each card detected (and the CPU for that matter)?
You could enable them all by default if you want to, but it would then be easy for a user to opt-out (and hopefully stay opted-out).

Again, few novice donors are going to have multiple GPUs. For the expert, it's very easy to add pause_on_start = true to any slot from which they wish to opt-out.

You've given your answer to "Any solid reasons for running V6?" and details about how to configure V7 are off-topic.

Let's get back on-topic.