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Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:25 am
by kliddo
Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciate it.
Now i've starting to get 1500 PPD. I don't know if it is the SMP client.. Even though i've uninstalled and deleted all its routes, my PPD decreased even futher. From 3200 to 1500 now using either the gpu or other client. In smp clients, i get 200 PPD.
This is worse than before. I just to run pentium 4 3.20 ghz with 9600gt and ddr -400 mhz yet i could get 3600 PPD. I am running the same core as before
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:27 am
by kliddo
I don't care about clients. If any of ya think that this client(S) will perform good, i will install it. Again, this is dedicated folding machine.
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:50 am
by jrweiss
So, which client(s) are you running now? If you can't tell us, we can't help much!
PPD is also very dependent on individual Work Units. Some give higher PPD than others.
If you're only interested in Folding "for the cause," then running 2 CPU clients (
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegrou ... 86-620.zip) as Services, each in its own directory and with its own Machine ID (
http://fahwiki.net/index.php/FAH_%26_SM ... le_Clients), is the best way to "set and forget" a dedicated Folding machine. Maximum PPD cannot be attained on a "set and forget" basis by a beginner.
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:14 am
by kliddo
im running gpu client now.
I think i have some hard ware failure. Getting bsod on full load. Will keep yall update
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:02 pm
by jrweiss
What GPU? What card format (exhaust outside or inside case)? Are you monitoring the GPU temperature?
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:58 pm
by kliddo
its kfa2 galaxy video card. it sucks air in and the temperature goes max at 66 c. Card is 9600gt oc edition (or whatever galaxy call it)
running 500 watt antec psu with a sata hard drive, ide dvd rom, after market cooler and biostar g31 m7 te motherboard.
http://wer.microsoft.com/responses/Resp ... e2fab796ae
above is the error. I think my psu doesnt have enough watt to feed it on full load.
I know this is folding forum but i want to get the machine working. This machine is working worse then my pentium 4 now!
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:07 am
by jrweiss
The response points to a driver problem. Did you recently upgrade or change it? If so, revert.
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:58 am
by kliddo
The response points to a driver problem. Did you recently upgrade or change it? If so, revert.
I used drive cleaner to delete all nvidia drivers and reinstall but it will still crash under load. i have set up a new (but old tech) computer to test if it will crash. I'm also using crucial balltix ram which people say have high failures so i don't know yet.
i will also inform on how much ppd i get with 2x512 mb ram and 1 x 1 gb of ram (2 gb total) on a pentium 4 3.0 ghz 2mb cache with the same graphic card and asus pgd1 (or i) motherboard
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:18 pm
by kliddo
It wasn't the graphic card. Could've been driver but i may never find it..
I think it's a bug in gpu client. I ran the command line gpu client and the system try gpu client. Both were running fine for few seconds but my fahmon did not update so i clicked "display" system tray gpu client. My mouse pointer was only monving and every thing else was hung and then, a restart. Later i tried just the system tray client only and clicked "display" and it hunged again whih resulted in a restart. I don't know if it's only me or with all the clients but it happened to me. I deleted the deino and system tray client but in folders, i still find their files. Is there anyway to completely delete them? I have uninstalled them from add/remove program.
I'm currently running command line gpu client. Should i run something else?
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:26 pm
by jrweiss
The viewer in the GPU systray client is known to be buggy. You just found out the hard way...
If you uninstalled the clients, the work directories will remain, in case you were only trying to update the client. If you do not plan to re-install them, you can delete the directories and files that remain.
If you tried to install the Deino SMP client on a single-core CPU, it will not work correctly, if at all. With the 9600 GPU, the nVidia GPU console client v6.20 is your best bet. Once all the rest is cleaned out, you should be back to normal Folding.
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:57 pm
by kliddo
getting 3500 ppd on averge with gpu console client. When run the cpu console client, goes to 3000 ppd and it takes 40 minutes just for one step on cpu. Should i just run gpu client?
For the smp, i have e5200 but it still performs awful
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:58 pm
by jrweiss
On a single-core machine, you should run ONLY 1 GPU client OR 1 CPU client.
SMP should run fine on the E5200, with maybe 1000-1200 PPD. If you ran 2 CPU clients instead, you'd get around 300 PPD each.
My E6850 (3 GHz) gets 1300-1600 PPD with SMP. My Q9450+HD3850 gets 1700-1800 PPD on the GPU plus 900 PPD for 3 CPU clients. I don't run SMP on it because it's on a WiFi link, and the SMP crashed too often.
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:01 am
by kliddo
the only reason i installed cpu system tray is because my computer was still using 50% of cpu power. After i downloaded that, its now using 100%.
Here are the ppd.
3300 for gpu
180 for system tray cpu
and 330 for the other cpu
get about 4100 when i leave computer at idle.
I will try using the smp client and maybe another gpu client (if possible?) and see how much ppd i get. Just need the old cpu work units to get done.
EDIT: i have n router and g adapter. Didn't know that clients are effected by internet too...
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:44 am
by jrweiss
Waitaminutehere!
On WHAT hardware and OS are you running a GPU client plus 2 CPU clients? Just because 3 clients happen to run right now on a system doesn't mean it's advisable to do so! Once again, the Pande Group recommends ONLY one GPU or CPU client per discrete CPU core ("hyperthreading" doesn't count)! It also recommends the SMP client ONLY if there are 2 or more discrete CPU cores available to it.
The MPI SMP client is severely affected by network outages. The Deino client is supposedly resistant.
Maybe you should read through the FAQs, installation guides, and Wiki before experimenting any more...
Re: What clients should i run?
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:55 am
by kliddo
the hardware is mentioned in the first post. Running xp pro and all temperatures are fine
I have told the sys tray client to pause now. And i only installed it because 50% of my cpu power was going to waste.