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Most of the time, Nvidia/ATI/AMD use GPU Series which allows them to group different GPUs containing similar features into a single Group/Series. Thus in your case, any GPU from the HD 4000 Series (regardless of the brand and model version) will not be supported by FahCore_16. However, you can still run FahCore_11 until it is discontinued from the Servers. FahCore_16 is supported only by HD 5000 Series and above.

Actually I don't think he will make the deadline's, I have the same gpu as dedicated 24/7 folder and I'm folding a 5738 started 08/Jun/2011-21:44:56 with an eta of a lil over 7 hours and an tpf of 28:17m. The luck is that while I occasionally game, that's on my primary screen which is running from a different card.

well, picking out bits an pieces from baowulf's post, i think i finally figured out how to explain what im trying to say. the installation guide for F@H does NOT specify the HD part. it only says 2xxx-5xxx. So, i would take that as i can use my ATI Radeon 4350 HD for a longer period.

By "longer period" it will be until September of this year. However this isn't set in stone and can be changed if deemed necessary. Nonetheless, we all appreciate your contribution to this project

relion64 wrote:well, picking out bits an pieces from baowulf's post, i think i finally figured out how to explain what im trying to say. the installation guide for F@H does NOT specify the HD part. it only says 2xxx-5xxx. So, i would take that as i can use my ATI Radeon 4350 HD for a longer period.

ATI/AMD has been badging its cards as "HD xxxx" since the 2000 series. Every single one of their cards since then carries the HD moniker; the guide doesn't mention it because most people don't pay attention to it and, since it's ubiquitous, it becomes somewhat meaningless for identifying what card one has. It may be slightly more relevant next gen; the first ATI cards to have a 4-digit identifying number were of the 7000 series back around 2000-2001, but since they're so old I doubt anyone will get the upcoming series and those old things confused. There never was a non-HD 4350.

Also, using iterations/sec as a benchmark is not recommended for observing performance since that figure can vary a lot depending on the WU being processed. Most people use Points Per Day; an easy way to get this figure is to install a monitoring client such as FahMon or HFM.net, which can be found in the 3rd party software board, and point it to the folder that contains your client(s). PPD normally remains pretty constant for a particular piece of hardware than iter/sec, and the monitoring clients take up essentially no processing power, meaning you can leave them running all the time without slowing down your progress.

one, i tried both point monitoring systems, and it didnt work. two, i was trying to run boinc, and it says that it can not find a suitable video card. F@H GPU version was running just fine, but boinc didnt recognize my card. so then i reinstalled the ATI Catalyst Install Manager. Now its completely messed up. The catalyst icon does not show up in my taskbar, and i cant get the program to open. I have AMD OverDrive installed so i could overclock my GPU. it was able to get it from 600mhz to 640mhz, which doesnt seem much, but i was folding much faster. when Catalyst blew, it took those setting with it. and it keeps on saying that the display driver is installed, when i install it, then when i goto repair catalyst or something, it shows its not installed. and yes, i have APP with OpenCL 1.4(i think) support, plus CAL and BROOK support. i did everything boinc told me to do to enable GPU computing, and now my Catalyst is f*cked up. third, i have an ASUS EeePC 901 netbook with windows 7 ultimate 32bit, and an Intel Atom N247 on it, which is a combined graphics/CPU. it has one core... ok. now, when i setup a single core client on it, and i tell it to run everything at high priority, it only uses half of the cpu. so, i can run another F@H. thats good, but what im confused about is their are other applications that report 2 cores(it acutally says 2 cpu's), but its a one core processor, and there is only one installed. so whats up there? fourth, with AMD OverDrive, i try to launch the application itself so i can overclock my CPU, which is an AMD Athlon 64-fx 62(Windsor), and it says that it cannot find a amd supported chipset. Funny thing is, is the computer itself, when bought from store, came with an AMD Sempron 1.8 ghz single core. it has Nvidia 6430 LE(something like that) graphics onboard, and the ATI Radeon 4350 HD was an addon, but this computer was AMD when it rolled off the factory line. and OverDrive is telling me it cannot find a supported chipset... so, again. what the hell... (just to clarify, i overclocked my GPU using engine control center(or something like that). the executable is ccc.exe, and thats what is supposed to show up in my taskbar... and it doesn't. all tho i have to have OverDrive installed to access those settings in CCC...)

relion64 wrote:one, i tried both point monitoring systems, and it didnt work.

What do you mean by "it didn't work?" We can try to identify what went wrong, but we'll need more than that.

relion64 wrote: two, i was trying to run boinc, and it says that it can not find a suitable video card. F@H GPU version was running just fine, but boinc didnt recognize my card. so then i reinstalled the ATI Catalyst Install Manager. Now its completely messed up. The catalyst icon does not show up in my taskbar, and i cant get the program to open. I have AMD OverDrive installed so i could overclock my GPU. it was able to get it from 600mhz to 640mhz, which doesnt seem much, but i was folding much faster. when Catalyst blew, it took those setting with it. and it keeps on saying that the display driver is installed, when i install it, then when i goto repair catalyst or something, it shows its not installed. and yes, i have APP with OpenCL 1.4(i think) support, plus CAL and BROOK support. i did everything boinc told me to do to enable GPU computing, and now my Catalyst is f*cked up.

Have you tried using Driver Sweeper? It should remove every trace of all ATI/AMD drivers and assorted software, and you can then try reinstalling from scratch.

relion64 wrote: third, i have an ASUS EeePC 901 netbook with windows 7 ultimate 32bit, and an Intel Atom N247 on it, which is a combined graphics/CPU. it has one core... ok. now, when i setup a single core client on it, and i tell it to run everything at high priority, it only uses half of the cpu. so, i can run another F@H. thats good, but what im confused about is their are other applications that report 2 cores(it acutally says 2 cpu's), but its a one core processor, and there is only one installed. so whats up there?

It's a result of Intel's Hyperthreading technology. The CPU can run two different threads concurrently, and presents itself to the OS as 2 cores, even though it only has one physical core and thus one set of all the hardware. Windows Task Manager calculates %CPU as the % of the total amount of CPU power; a dual-core with only one core being utilized would show up as 50% used. Since HT looks like 2 cores to the OS, Windows thinks the CPU is only being pushed to 50% capacity, but in reality that's not the case (the hardware that F@h uses is at nearly 100%% utilization). Don't install a second copy of the client, as running 2 copies will cause each WU to be returned about twice as slowly, and the Pande Group greatly prefers fast turnaround to volume.

actually, one did a work unit in a day, the other one took a day and a quarter(2 uniprocessor clients that is)... which isnt that bad considering its a 1.6 single core. all tho for watever reason when they uploaded, it didnt add points to my name... grrrr. secondly, what i mean by it didnt work with the point monitoring systems, is it wouldnt recognize my client. i loaded it up, set it to F@H directory, and nothing appeared. BUT, i was having similiar type problems with BOINC and F@H7. but on the networking level. wat i mean is that, well, with F@H7, the only reason i installed it was because at anyone point, i was running 3-5 different clients(2 uniprocessor on the Eeepc, and either 1 GPU and 1 uniprocessor, or a GPU and the rest dedicated to BOINC on my dell.) basically so i could control everything from one point. well, one, the client for localhost wouldnt automatically start(on the dell, and i did set it to automatically start)... i knew how to start it manually, but it was getting annoying constantly reopening it because i accidentally shut it down. But i couldnt get it to connect to my EeePC. i set it up on my EeePC(i installed F@H 7 on there to), and it wouldnt work. BOINC, same thing. i couldnt get BOINC Manager or BOINCTASKS to connect to my EeePC, and yes i had it set up on my EeePC, or so i thought. on that note, i already kinda know wat the problem is... with the networking, that is. im not sure why the point monitoring systems wouldnt find F@H on localhost, tho. but, its the way i have to connect my dell to the internet. its Comcast 15 mbps from the modem, into a high usage, good quality netgear router... and then from there to my EeePC its wireless. From there, a lan cable to my dell, with ics turned on on the eeepc.(with my EeePC sitting ontop of the dell). it has to be that way because i do not have the 300+ft plus of lan cable required to run it out my bedroom door, down my stairs, across the landing, and ALL the way over to the other wall where the main computer and router sit(btw, my parents do not own this house... ive already looked into that possibility[for the people who bring up the,"why dont you just go thru the walls and ceilings and stuff like that?"]). window 7(on the eeepc) is recognizing the connection between my dell and it as a public network(all tho i took care of that within the windows 7 firewall settings on the eeepc, and Eset Smart Security 5 on the dell). so, its kinda figured out, but not.

Oh, I missed that you installed v7. PG changed the log file structure when going to v7 and none of the third-party tools have been updated yet to work with it yet. Still, v7 should tell you PPD if enough information is available from the server, and at the very least you should be able to calculate PPD by extrapolating it from Time Per Frame (TPF) and the number of points assigned to each WU (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html).

I've had issues with v7 finding clients, including the local one. Not sure I can help with that.