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Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:14 pm
by P5-133XL
7im wrote:It would be nice if the HFM developer would set the minimum value to that feature to 1 hour to avoid pounding the Stanford servers, on purpose, or by mistake.
I think that is reasonable, so I went to HFM.net's google groups and placed a feature request quoting this thread.
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:28 pm
by harlam357
P5-133XL wrote:7im wrote:It would be nice if the HFM developer would set the minimum value to that feature to 1 hour to avoid pounding the Stanford servers, on purpose, or by mistake.
I think that is reasonable, so I went to HFM.net's google groups and placed a feature request quoting this thread.
...and here I am. See, I'm not that hard to find.
VijayPande wrote:Actually, the HFM developer (and all developers) should NEVER query any of our cgi-bin pages. All it takes is some bug on their side to wreak havoc. All developers should honor the robots.txt we have on our web site.
Sorry to be so hard on this, but this creates huge problems for our donors and major distractions for my team, who should be doing science, not dealing with problems caused by 3rd party apps.
I apologize for anyone who may have been banned and also for any trouble this has caused with the FAH team -
this was not my intention. I will be removing the feature that accesses these cgi-bin based pages, no problem. I would have done it sooner had I known it was not proper etiquette to do so... or known that such was causing a problem.
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:48 pm
by VijayPande
Thanks for your help with this issue and with HFM in general.
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:21 am
by 7im
Thanks P5-133XL, I haven't followed HFM development like I have Fahmon, so tracking that down would have taking more time than I had today.
And thank you harlam357 for the quick response.
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:53 am
by BrokenWolf
I would like to say thank you to all who posted here so we could get this cleared up.
It was making me question what was going on on my network.
I got home and checked the cabling and found the kids had strung a cable from my switch to their PC (around the corner from my systems so not too far) which means the system I thought was on the Residential dsl was not.
Time for a little family pow-wow about what is not to be touched on Dad's side of the office.
Thanks again everyone.
Tim (a.k.a. BrokenWolf)
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:26 pm
by harlam357
My heartfelt apologies and info on the fixed build can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9903&p=136140#p136140
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:49 am
by BrokenWolf
Hey Harlam, No one is bleeding or hurt so it is not a major thing.
I found out that i am not perfect (which is quite humbling let me tell you) so now everyone can party to that admission. It's what I get for not making sure that I actually turned a setting off. I am still using your monitoring tool as I find some of the features very nice.
This gives me an excuse to replace Centurylink's stupid Westell DSL Modem/Router thingy with something that has a little more control and reporting ability.
I am sure I will have access back to the stats soon. (Remember that it was me not checking it was off),
Fold on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BW
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:12 am
by harlam357
Right on... Fold on brother!!!
I had a Westell... actually I think I still have it, do you need a second one? It's the least I can do.
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:25 am
by BrokenWolf
No...please, no thank you. (runs away screaming)
Yours can gather dust at your place and my will soon be doing the same at my place.
BW
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:11 pm
by iwegian
VijayPande wrote:Actually, the HFM developer (and all developers) should NEVER query any of our cgi-bin pages. All it takes is some bug on their side to wreak havoc. All developers should honor the robots.txt we have on our web site.
Sorry to be so hard on this, but this creates huge problems for our donors and major distractions for my team, who should be doing science, not dealing with problems caused by 3rd party apps.
So is this ban permanent?
ToTOW pointed this HFM thing out to me, I must be one of those banned. I started using HFM about 2 or 3 weeks ago to estimate bonuses when the A3s started. The script setting has now been found (was 15 minutes) and has been turned off. I certainly was not trying to slam your servers....I limit my normal refreshes of stats to just several a day. My biggest "attack" is a couple hundred work units a day.
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:12 pm
by P5-133XL
People that were banned, and wish to be unbanned need to contact the Pande Group directly via PM. I don't think that anyone other than them can do an unbanning.
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:13 pm
by iwegian
P5-133XL wrote:People that were banned, and wish to be unbanned need to contact the Pande Group directly via PM. I don't think that anyone other than them can do an unbanning.
Thanks. What is a "PM" and how do you do it?
Re: Errors @ http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=t
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:27 pm
by P5-133XL
iwegian wrote:P5-133XL wrote:People that were banned, and wish to be unbanned need to contact the Pande Group directly via PM. I don't think that anyone other than them can do an unbanning.
Thanks. What is a "PM" and how do you do it?
PM means Private message.
To do it use the user control panel (top left of the page) and click on the private messages tab. The trick is to find the right person that does the unbanning. At this point, I would suggest VijayPande.