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Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:59 pm
by ChristianVirtual
@bruce: valid observation and most likely exactly planned this way by the maker companies.
Improved power efficiencies is a good reason for me in case of 24/7 folding.
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:12 pm
by 7im
mdk777 wrote:Yeah, I think the point 7IM was making regards the cost benefit of REPLACING existing cards.
Saving around 100 watts will save you around $100 per year when running continuously, at average electricity costs in the US.
Hence, if you already have a 980TI, investing in a new 1070 will require nearly 4 years to "pay for itself" in efficiency savings alone.
Of course, YMMV. Your electricity costs may be higher, you may be paying cooling, which effectively doubles the rate of payback, you may like the lower fan noise and less heat in your living conditions...etc. etc. etc.
However, everyone will have to look at these factors for themselves, it is just not a clear cut and dry, black and white choice.
Yes, exactly. Thank you for reiterating that idea so succinctly.
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:56 am
by Nathan_P
It depends on how your upgrade cycle works, I'm going to do both and upgrade and replacement. My daily rig which doesn't fold is going to get my 980ti to replace my old 670 and the 980ti will be replaced by either a 1070/1080 so its a double win, more power efficiency on the folding rig and a better gaming experience in my daily driver
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:10 am
by foldy
For me it is the other way round, my brother is waiting for AMD Vega or GTX 1080 TI before replacing his gtx 980ti. But then I get his 980ti and replace my R9 280.
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:30 am
by Genotype_Jim
Hello,
So I don't currently Fold (I use BOINC) but came across the FAHBench and ran it on stock settings on my OC'd 1080 MSI Gaming X. I got 124.693 as my score. I also ran the stock FAHBench settings but on double and got a measly 12 points. Hope this info helps
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:45 pm
by bruce
Genotype_Jim wrote:I ...came across the FAHBench and ran it on stock settings on my OC'd 1080 MSI Gaming X. I got 124.693 as my score. I also ran the stock FAHBench settings but on double and got a measly 12 points. Hope this info helps
Most applications (including FAH and BOINC and most other DC projects) use Double Precision only when really necessary. FAHBench does test DP for the sake of completeness.
We used to say that FAH doesn't use DP, but that's no longer an absolute statement. FAH does uses it a (very) little.
CPUs all provide Double Precision operations. Some GPUs do and some do not. An important distinction between commercial grade GPUs and consumer grade GPUs is that those consumer grade GPUs that do support DP are pretty slow, although DP is always slower that Single Precision.
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:28 pm
by foldy
GTX 1060 will be released this month and has equal performance as gtx 980 but half the watts for 250 dollar.
It is an alternative to AMD RX 480 in this price level.
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:52 am
by mmonnin
Before pascal they were I think $400-500. 970 around $300 with 980Ti at $600. So if the same performance (we'll see) at less W for less $ seems pretty good.
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:59 pm
by road-runner
I got my 1070 today windoz 32 bit all machines slight overclock +20
Code: Select all
Project ID: 9152
Core: ZETA_DEV
Credit: 3300
Frames: 100
Name: 1070 Slot 01
Path: 192.168.1.7-36330
Number of Frames Observed: 15
Min. Time / Frame : 00:01:04 - 515,029.6 PPD
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:01:07 - 480,828.1 PPD
Cur. Time / Frame : 00:01:04 - 515,029.6 PPD
R3F. Time / Frame : 00:01:04 - 515,029.6 PPD
All Time / Frame : 00:01:07 - 480,828.1 PPD
Eff. Time / Frame : 00:01:34 - 289,341.3 PPD
Name: 1080 Slot 01
Path: 192.168.1.6-36330
Number of Frames Observed: 100
Min. Time / Frame : 00:00:54 - 664,525.5 PPD
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:00:57 - 612,759.4 PPD
Name: 1080 Slot 02
Path: 192.168.1.6-36330
Number of Frames Observed: 100
Min. Time / Frame : 00:00:49 - 768,790.6 PPD
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:00:52 - 703,229.8 PPD
Name: 980 TI Slot 00
Path: 192.168.1.9-36330
Number of Frames Observed: 300
Min. Time / Frame : 00:00:53 - 683,420.8 PPD
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:01:03 - 527,340.8 PPD
Name: GTX 1080 Slot 01
Path: 192.168.1.6-36330
Number of Frames Observed: 300
Min. Time / Frame : 00:00:46 - 845,211.6 PPD
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:00:53 - 683,420.8 PPD
Name: GTX 1080 Slot 02
Path: 192.168.1.6-36330
Number of Frames Observed: 300
Min. Time / Frame : 00:00:46 - 845,211.6 PPD
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:00:52 - 703,229.8 PPD
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:08 pm
by road-runner
Anyone know if pascal will fold in linux and if its worth changing to from windows
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:00 am
by ChristianVirtual
I'm folding with one GTX 980Ti and one 1070 under CentOS 7 in one system , driver 367.27. No issues.
Be aware that Linux has no good overclocking tools. Never went into it deeper; but if important for you then Linux is not your choice.
My both MSI cards are factory overclocked; netting in around 1.4m PPD, depend on luck and WU assigned.
Personally I prefer it anytime over Windows.
See my post earlier in this thread ( viewtopic.php?f=38&t=28784&start=135#p286845 )
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:12 pm
by k1wi
ChristianVirtual wrote:Be aware that Linux has no good overclocking tools. Never went into it deeper; but if important for you then Linux is not your choice.
Managing clockspeed & fan speed using NVidia's X server settings work well enough for me. I believe it also allows voltage changes, I just haven't used it. Does it not work for Pascal?
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:00 pm
by ChristianVirtual
k1wi wrote:ChristianVirtual wrote:Be aware that Linux has no good overclocking tools. Never went into it deeper; but if important for you then Linux is not your choice.
Managing clockspeed & fan speed using NVidia's X server settings work well enough for me. I believe it also allows voltage changes, I just haven't used it. Does it not work for Pascal?
agree, fan speed is ok and works well under Linux.
clock speed for P2 never worked for me on Maxwells despite all kind of cool bits combinations. Not tried on Pascal as that one is already on speed.
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:14 pm
by foldy
GTX 1060 got released and may have half the GTX 1080 performance at maybe only 125 Watt for 250$.
Re: Nvidia Pascal GPU cards???
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:43 pm
by TheDarkBGM
Today the 1060 has been officially released as soon as any one gets there hands on one an update on what there perfomance is like ie ppd and the power draw using f@h would be great to see sompared to a 970/980. =)