Problem with QRB

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Prelude514
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Problem with QRB

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It seems that I'm not receiving my QRB with some (all?) of my folders. I'm certain that the passkey provided by Stanford was properly entered for all clients, so that can't be the problem. Could there possibly be any other issues? Here's a screen shot of HFM, and a link to my stats. HFM has been indicating 80,000-100,000 PPD for the last week or so, but I haven't been close to even 50,000 PPD according to all stats.

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Edit: I can't post a link as I've just signed up and there's a forum restriction. User ID on EOC stats = 4520

Not pictured in HFM, but also folding:

GTX 580
GTX 460
Q6700
E7500
Athlon tripple core

All set up to fold smp with 6.34 for:

Username: Fever
Team: 32
With passkey

What's keeping me from receiving my QRB?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Problem with QRB

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What kind of hardware is "hpcloud..." ? Is it fast enough to make the deadlines?
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Re: Problem with QRB

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I'm in HP's beta testing for their cloud servers, and I run F@H on them. All instances are more than fast enough. 4c = 4 CPU core, 8c = 8 cores. Not exactly sure what the hardware is, but I believe it's based on Sandy Bridge.
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Re: Problem with QRB

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Prelude514 wrote:I'm in HP's beta testing for their cloud servers, and I run F@H on them. All instances are more than fast enough. 4c = 4 CPU core, 8c = 8 cores. Not exactly sure what the hardware is, but I believe it's based on Sandy Bridge.
There were reports that people using HPCS were using the corehack to get -bigadv projects assigned, however there are lots of reports that most assignments are now vanilla SMP.

As for the hardware, AKAIK sandy based xeons are not yet available in MP configurations, this stuff is either opteron based or s1366/s1567 xeon
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Re: Problem with QRB

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Can you post some PRCG from recently completed WU so that we check what happened ?
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Re: Problem with QRB

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None of the WUs listed on your HFM screenshot have been credited with bonus points. Something must be wrong with your passkey configuration or with the QRB qualification conditions ...
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Re: Problem with QRB

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Nathan_P wrote:
Prelude514 wrote:I'm in HP's beta testing for their cloud servers, and I run F@H on them. All instances are more than fast enough. 4c = 4 CPU core, 8c = 8 cores. Not exactly sure what the hardware is, but I believe it's based on Sandy Bridge.
There were reports that people using HPCS were using the corehack to get -bigadv projects assigned, however there are lots of reports that most assignments are now vanilla SMP.

As for the hardware, AKAIK sandy based xeons are not yet available in MP configurations, this stuff is either opteron based or s1366/s1567 xeon
Thanks for the info. The first guide I followed to set everything up on the cloud actually used the core hack, but I'm terrible with Linux and didn't realize that at the time. Once I realized (after crunching one bigadv that I didn't get QRB on either) I reinstalled the client to fold normal SMP, as all my machines are set up for.
toTOW wrote:Can you post some PRCG from recently completed WU so that we check what happened ?
Here's a brief list of some of the projects:

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Project: 11021 (Run 0, Clone 1718, Gen 22)
Project: 11061 (Run 0, Clone 102, Gen 49)
Project: 11040 (Run 0, Clone 974, Gen 9)
Project: 11071 (Run 671, Clone 0, Gen 9)
Project: 11060 (Run 0, Clone 1887, Gen 33)
Project: 11041 (Run 0, Clone 296, Gen 15)
Project: 11041 (Run 0, Clone 296, Gen 16)
Project: 11021 (Run 0, Clone 3980, Gen 30)
Project: 11061 (Run 0, Clone 2051, Gen 19)
Project: 11041 (Run 0, Clone 738, Gen 18)
Project: 7132 (Run 0, Clone 0, Gen 368)
Project: 6976 (Run 0, Clone 92, Gen 255)
Project: 7157 (Run 0, Clone 16, Gen 427)
Project: 7149 (Run 0, Clone 28, Gen 456)
Project: 7131 (Run 0, Clone 32, Gen 392)
Project: 7134 (Run 0, Clone 19, Gen 454)
Project: 6946 (Run 0, Clone 8, Gen 304)
Project: 7136 (Run 0, Clone 67, Gen 406)
Project: 6987 (Run 0, Clone 105, Gen 297)
Project: 7156 (Run 0, Clone 49, Gen 238)
Project: 6965 (Run 0, Clone 10, Gen 419)
Project: 7140 (Run 0, Clone 44, Gen 481)
Project: 7154 (Run 0, Clone 22, Gen 359)
Project: 7129 (Run 0, Clone 43, Gen 399)
Project: 6941 (Run 0, Clone 71, Gen 310)
Project: 6990 (Run 0, Clone 60, Gen 332)
Project: 7155 (Run 0, Clone 46, Gen 263)
Project: 6940 (Run 0, Clone 61, Gen 454)
Project: 7148 (Run 0, Clone 88, Gen 350)
Project: 6996 (Run 0, Clone 23, Gen 353)
Project: 6098 (Run 1, Clone 52, Gen 42)
Project: 6098 (Run 1, Clone 52, Gen 43)
Project: 6098 (Run 3, Clone 0, Gen 67)
Project: 6098 (Run 5, Clone 36, Gen 59)
Project: 11060 (Run 0, Clone 2199, Gen 13)
Project: 11060 (Run 0, Clone 1857, Gen 26)
Project: 11020 (Run 0, Clone 5226, Gen 12)
Project: 11061 (Run 0, Clone 2324, Gen 3)
Project: 6098 (Run 3, Clone 74, Gen 37)
Project: 6098 (Run 3, Clone 74, Gen 38)
Project: 6099 (Run 0, Clone 12, Gen 88)
Project: 6099 (Run 0, Clone 12, Gen 89)
Project: 6098 (Run 4, Clone 38, Gen 53)
Project: 6098 (Run 4, Clone 38, Gen 53)
Project: 6098 (Run 4, Clone 38, Gen 54)
Project: 6098 (Run 1, Clone 15, Gen 72)
Project: 6099 (Run 6, Clone 97, Gen 57)
Project: 11041 (Run 0, Clone 1061, Gen 2)
Project: 11021 (Run 0, Clone 2356, Gen 12)
Project: 11071 (Run 108, Clone 0, Gen 19)
Project: 11040 (Run 0, Clone 748, Gen 20)
Project: 6099 (Run 9, Clone 11, Gen 96)
Project: 6098 (Run 7, Clone 40, Gen 58)
Project: 6099 (Run 1, Clone 64, Gen 78)
Project: 6099 (Run 3, Clone 26, Gen 81)
Project: 6099 (Run 3, Clone 26, Gen 82)
Project: 6099 (Run 3, Clone 26, Gen 83)
Project: 6098 (Run 4, Clone 7, Gen 52)
Project: 7511 (Run 0, Clone 136, Gen 74)
Project: 6099 (Run 7, Clone 3, Gen 80)
Project: 6097 (Run 0, Clone 57, Gen 91)
toTOW wrote:None of the WUs listed on your HFM screenshot have been credited with bonus points. Something must be wrong with your passkey configuration or with the QRB qualification conditions ...
So that confirms what I've been thinking. Looking at my daily stats on EOC, I believe that QRB stopped working for me sometime between Jan. 11th to Jan. 15th. Take a look below:

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I only started up the HP servers on Jan. 25th. With all the extra power, I'm only making about half the PPD as I was before. (Up to 75K)

Thanks for investigating so far, toTOW. Let me know if I can provide you with anymore information.
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Re: Problem with QRB

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Forgot to mention, I've gone through all of my clients. The passkey was properly entered in all instances. Could my passkey be broken? I'm also positive I'm above the 80% return rule, as I never dump WUs and all of my machines are rock stable.
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Re: Problem with QRB

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Prelude514 wrote:Forgot to mention, I've gone through all of my clients. The passkey was properly entered in all instances. Could my passkey be broken? I'm also positive I'm above the 80% return rule, as I never dump WUs and all of my machines are rock stable.
Don't forget that you also need to complete 80% or better of WU before the preferred deadline, i know that several on our team have had issues with the servers dropping off line
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Re: Problem with QRB

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As mentioned, I'm positive that I've returned over 80% before deadline. Logs usually indicate "returned with 98% of deadline remaining" or so. Is there any other way to verify?
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Re: Problem with QRB

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I checked a few more WUs from your list :

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Hi Fever (team 32),
Your WU (P11021 R0 C1718 G22) was added to the stats database on 2012-02-05 12:09:19 for 480 points of credit.

Hi Fever (team 32),
Your WU (P11061 R0 C102 G49) was added to the stats database on 2012-02-02 18:09:40 for 380 points of credit.

Hi Fever (team 32),
Your WU (P7132 R0 C0 G368) was added to the stats database on 2012-01-31 05:10:12 for 585 points of credit.

Hi Fever (team 32),
Your WU (P7149 R0 C28 G456) was added to the stats database on 2012-02-01 01:09:25 for 585 points of credit.

Hi Fever (team 32),
Your WU (P6996 R0 C23 G353) was added to the stats database on 2012-02-05 13:09:59 for 552 points of credit.

Hi Fever (team 32),
Your WU (P11060 R0 C1857 G26) was added to the stats database on 2012-02-04 16:09:43 for 334 points of credit.

Hi Fever (team 32),
Your WU (P6098 R4 C38 G54) was added to the stats database on 2012-02-04 09:09:10 for 1593 points of credit.

Hi Fever (team 32),
Your WU (P7511 R0 C136 G74) was added to the stats database on 2012-02-03 07:09:18 for 785 points of credit.
All WUs are completed with no error and within the deadline ...

If your passkey is well entered in all your clients, the only thing that might be broken is the 80% completion rate ... but I don't think we have a way to check this ... :(
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Re: Problem with QRB

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Hmmm... Well, that really sucks. :( Thanks for looking into the matter for me.

So I should just keep on folding this way? If I am below 80% returned (which I'm sure I'm not) I'll eventually work my way back up to 80% and start receiving the bonus again I guess?

Is there any way for me to change my passkey? As I'm fairly certain mine is no longer valid/working, considering I meet all QRB requirements.

Edit: Am I able to access the information you posted in your last post? Or is that only available to moderators such as yourself?
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Re: Problem with QRB

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I think you can request another passkey by entering your informations again on : http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py

If you enter the same informations as before, I guess it will give you the same passkey, so you will be able to double check what you entered in each client (be careful of unwanted space or hidden characters).

And the tool I used is only available to mods.
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Re: Problem with QRB

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Are you getting bonus points for SMP on your home computers (using the same UserName and the same Passkey)?
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bruce> I have the same results on the WU from his machines noted Q9xxx and laptop ... :?
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