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by JBurton57
Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:22 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

If the servers were designed to work in a prioritizing way to best utilize the available hardware, what you are talking about wouldn't be an issue at all. If the system were actually smart in assigning work, the only way a 386 could be assigned work is if everything faster was already in use. In wh...
by JBurton57
Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:55 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

You're basically telling me there is a flaw in the system then. WUs should be prioritized and high priority WUs should end up on the fastest hardware available to calculate it. The Pentium IIs should only receive low priority WUs. As a contributor, that really isn't my problem. If I make my Pentium...
by JBurton57
Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:27 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

There is no great good in encouraging people to run their 386 machines, (not one, not a million),they are just too slow! So is something not better than nothing? In a sense this is true. Pandegroup has said in the past that if a client computer cannot reliably make the "preferred" (first)...
by JBurton57
Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:44 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

Ultimately, that's where I disagree with a lot of people on this forum. I fold because I have a lot of spare clocks that could be put to better use. Most here fold to fold. The current score system works for those that fold to fold but not for those that just want to donate spare clocks. I don't th...
by JBurton57
Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:54 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

I brought it up now because I saw 11 processors getting raped by a single 8800 GTS. The owner of the GTS is not pleased with this (he's thinking about switching to BOINC), nor am I. So I came here to get some answers, make some suggestions, and ultimately decide what course of action I will take (s...
by JBurton57
Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:25 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

Scaling prior to and after calculations can move the bulk of the calculations to the ALU while the FPU only handles translations of incoming and outgoing results. Surprise, surprise, 64-bit longs are far more suited to those kinds of operations than 32-bit. They have to commit to 64-bit before it i...
by JBurton57
Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:26 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

We ended up choosing a code snippet we had that takes a height map and calculates the corresponding normal map. Normal calculations are extremly FlOp intensive. Your input and outputs could be in the form of integers but the heavy lifting is all double- and single-precision floating point decimals-...
by JBurton57
Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:51 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

Only in FlOp sense. CPUs rape GPUs in arithmatic and almost always in available memory. Pande Group choose not to exploit those things probably due to the ease of keeping everything in floating-point decimals. I'm not a computer programmer, so I'll ask you this: What about a case like http://www.to...
by JBurton57
Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:29 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

You're honestly going to sit there and say that using the number of WUs completed is not fair, but assigning some number to a WU and passing that out is????? Um, you just said that it wasn't fair, but then you turn around and say it is? lol.... :roll: FAIR is listing what you are REALLY DOING. If W...
by JBurton57
Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:01 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

It's funny that you say it's physically impossible for a CPU to handle what a GPU can handle. They are very similar and CPUs were designed to handle much more. Think about what you are saying. You have pretty much stumbled onto your own answer without knowing it. A CPU handles all of the functions ...
by JBurton57
Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:01 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

Do we know that processor time is collected? We do WUs that give us points, and those points are based off of a benchmark machine. But that benchmark is a P4. I believe with hyperthreading turned off. What if hyperthreading is turned on? The processor may be slightly more efficient. Or what if it's ...
by JBurton57
Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:12 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
Replies: 150
Views: 32132

Re: Unbalanced Scoring

I hate to be the bad guy here, but who says we should dig up every old processor and plug it into FAH? Now don't get me wrong; I like the project. I think we all do, or we wouldn't read these forums. But in my opinion, the project chiefly works because it favors a bigger, but ultimately otherwise us...